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Message: <blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 7653086" data-attributes="member: 22424">And I'm glad for it. It's an interesting topic, and I'd much rather discuss this than the minutae of optimised builds in 3e, or whatever the latest controversy is. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Interesting. Actually, I like that approach.No, I absolutely agree. It's actually something I gave quite a bit of thought to about a year ago, when I concluded that I'd been doing it wrong for 20 years. Basically, I had been in the habit of just placing these things more or less randomly, as one more hazard for the PCs to deal with.After my rethink, though, I concluded that secret doors (and traps) were better treated as challenges for the players, essentially as mini-puzzles within the adventure. And, since they were puzzles, a better way forward would be to apply the Three Clue Rule, in order to give the players some scope with which to find those secret doors/traps/whatever.(Of course, that was what I figured was best for me - I'm not claiming at as a One True Way. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )(A corollary to this came out of pondering the level design in the Lego Video Games, where I noted that my wife and I had quite different approaches to them - she likes to blaze through the story and then leaves the game, while I prefer to collect all the "True Jedi" marks, the hidden canisters, etc. Which suggested to me that the best adventures should have multiple levels of 'puzzles' - a minimal set of necessary puzzles that must be overcome to complete the adventure, a second set of 'reward' puzzles that aren't required but which give extra treasure or other rewards, and then a third set of 'easter egg' puzzles for those players who are really keen. Of course, actually implementing that is a lot more work than just slapping down a few traps and secret doors!)</blockquote>

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