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<blockquote data-quote="Virago" data-source="post: 21109" data-attributes="member: 2045">Joy, this topic.firstly, is a 5'step allowed with a partial action? if one can do a partial charge, i don't see why notI've seen the Sage rule both ways on this, more recently on the &quot;no&quot; side (unless there's been a further flip-flop?).I think the rules come down in favor of the &quot;yes&quot; answer.But then the action rules are a bit miserably written, especially in the partial action area.&nbsp; I can easily imagine that the intent of the rules is that a 5' step will not mix with any move action elsewhere in the round.secondly, if the answer to the above is yes, can a hasted character do:&nbsp; &nbsp; 5' step out of melée range &gt; drink potion &gt; 5' back into melée range &gt; full attack actionIf the answer above is &quot;yes,&quot; another question is &quot;do these 5' steps avoid AoOs?&quot;One could say &quot;no&quot; based on PHB p. 117: &quot;If your entire move for the round is 5 feet (a 5-foot step), enemies do not get attacks of opportunity for you moving&quot; and interpreting it a bit more if-and-only-if.I would elevate this over the glossary definition for no particular reason except that the p. 117 definition is more nice and pure, and the glossary thinks there's such thing as a shield bonus.&nbsp; But then again, so does page 117.Also one might compare these hasted move sequences:(1)&nbsp; (attack, move 10) + (attack)(2)&nbsp; (attack, 5' step) + (5' step, attack)(1) Draws an AoO in any interp.&nbsp; (2) Seems essentially the same deal as (1), but doesn't draw an AoO by the glossary 5' step interpretation.You be the judge.&nbsp; Personally I think haste could use a little nerfing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Virago, post: 21109, member: 2045"] Joy, this topic. [i]firstly, is a 5'step allowed with a partial action? if one can do a partial charge, i don't see why not[/i] I've seen the Sage rule both ways on this, more recently on the "no" side (unless there's been a further flip-flop?). I think the rules come down in favor of the "yes" answer. But then the action rules are a bit miserably written, especially in the partial action area. I can easily imagine that the intent of the rules is that a 5' step will not mix with any move action elsewhere in the round. [i]secondly, if the answer to the above is yes, can a hasted character do: 5' step out of melée range > drink potion > 5' back into melée range > full attack action[/i] If the answer above is "yes," another question is "do these 5' steps avoid AoOs?" One could say "no" based on PHB p. 117: "If your entire move for the round is 5 feet (a 5-foot step), enemies do not get attacks of opportunity for you moving" and interpreting it a bit more if-and-only-if. I would elevate this over the glossary definition for no particular reason except that the p. 117 definition is more nice and pure, and the glossary thinks there's such thing as a shield bonus. But then again, so does page 117. Also one might compare these hasted move sequences: (1) (attack, move 10) + (attack) (2) (attack, 5' step) + (5' step, attack) (1) Draws an AoO in any interp. (2) Seems essentially the same deal as (1), but doesn't draw an AoO by the glossary 5' step interpretation. You be the judge. Personally I think [i]haste[/i] could use a little nerfing. [/QUOTE]

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