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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 25771" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Are you sure?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, you can partial charge, move 30 feet and attack, kill your opponent, and then cast a spell and move another 30 feet, and that's legal.</p><p></p><p>Result: 60 feet of movement, one attack, and one spell.</p><p></p><p>But, you cannot move 5 feet, cast a spell, move 30 feet, and cast another spell?</p><p></p><p>Result: 35 feet of movement, two spells.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, you can partial charge, move 30 feet and attack, kill your opponent, and then cast a spell and move another 30 feet, and that's legal.</p><p></p><p>Result: 60 feet of movement, one attack, and one spell.</p><p></p><p>But, you cannot cannot partial charge, move 30 feet and attack, kill your opponent, and then move 5' and cast a spell?</p><p></p><p>Result: 35 feet of movement, one attack, and one spell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And, all of this makes sense to you.</p><p></p><p>Simplicity itself.</p><p></p><p>Hmmm. I don't think so. I think you are so stuck up on the one 5 foot move per round idea, that you are not looking at this clearly.</p><p></p><p>It does not make sense to me. You said that scenario 2 is invalid because you cannot take a 5' step after moving the partial charge, but there is no rule that you cannot move 5', 10', or any other number of feet after doing a partial charge when hasted. The only rules conflict in scenario 2 is that of moving both backwards and forwards in a round that you are charging. If you change scenario 2 to continuing your move forward (as opposed to backwards), your entire rationale for why it could not be done is invalid.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you are getting the 5' step option once per round confused with whether any 5 foot movement done during an action is permitted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 25771, member: 2011"] Are you sure? So, you can partial charge, move 30 feet and attack, kill your opponent, and then cast a spell and move another 30 feet, and that's legal. Result: 60 feet of movement, one attack, and one spell. But, you cannot move 5 feet, cast a spell, move 30 feet, and cast another spell? Result: 35 feet of movement, two spells. So, you can partial charge, move 30 feet and attack, kill your opponent, and then cast a spell and move another 30 feet, and that's legal. Result: 60 feet of movement, one attack, and one spell. But, you cannot cannot partial charge, move 30 feet and attack, kill your opponent, and then move 5' and cast a spell? Result: 35 feet of movement, one attack, and one spell. And, all of this makes sense to you. Simplicity itself. Hmmm. I don't think so. I think you are so stuck up on the one 5 foot move per round idea, that you are not looking at this clearly. It does not make sense to me. You said that scenario 2 is invalid because you cannot take a 5' step after moving the partial charge, but there is no rule that you cannot move 5', 10', or any other number of feet after doing a partial charge when hasted. The only rules conflict in scenario 2 is that of moving both backwards and forwards in a round that you are charging. If you change scenario 2 to continuing your move forward (as opposed to backwards), your entire rationale for why it could not be done is invalid. I think you are getting the 5' step option once per round confused with whether any 5 foot movement done during an action is permitted. [/QUOTE]
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