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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 25808" data-attributes="member: 111"><p>Au contrare, mon ami. No action actually allows you to take a 5'-step. The rule is you may take a 5'-step once in any round you take NO OTHER MOVEMENT. Because this rule might be confusing in some situations, we have a list of actions that would not prohibit a 5'-step, but in no way do those actions "allow" a 5-foot step in that any time you do them you get a 5'-step regardless of whatever else you do that round.</p><p></p><p>If that was the case, you could take TWO 5'-steps in a regular round with two MEAs. I think we all know that two 5'-steps with two MEAs is not legal.</p><p></p><p>That's why I said that if one states that only one "5'-step" may be taken per round, one is also saying that no other movement is allowed in that round.</p><p></p><p>The 60' vs. 35' of movement argument seems good on the surface, until you realize that a 5'-step is SPECIAL in that it doesn't really count as movement and you cannot take any movement actions (including charging) if you take a 5'-step.</p><p></p><p>This is, indeed, very simple. Take a 5'-step (to avoid an AoO or for other reasons) and get no other movement. That's about the simplest rule there is.</p><p></p><p>Stop thinking about a 5'-step as being movment and start thinking about is as a small position adjustement you can take when you could not otherwise move (because of your other actions), and I think it all becomes clear.</p><p></p><p>In a nutshell, what I'm saying is that:</p><p></p><p>1. The rules could be interpreted two ways, but the FAQ is "official", so that means the actual, "offical" rule is only one "5'-step" per round. Follow whatever rules you like, but that's the "offical" one - read the intro to the FAQ for it's "offical" status.</p><p></p><p>2. IF you follow the FAQ, it is really, really simple to do, as I've shown.</p><p></p><p>3. IF you don't follow the FAQ and operate with the partial action not "seeing" the regular actions(s), that's fairly simple, too (though I suspect with a few hidden traps having to do with things that are defined by "rounds" rather than "actions").</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 25808, member: 111"] Au contrare, mon ami. No action actually allows you to take a 5'-step. The rule is you may take a 5'-step once in any round you take NO OTHER MOVEMENT. Because this rule might be confusing in some situations, we have a list of actions that would not prohibit a 5'-step, but in no way do those actions "allow" a 5-foot step in that any time you do them you get a 5'-step regardless of whatever else you do that round. If that was the case, you could take TWO 5'-steps in a regular round with two MEAs. I think we all know that two 5'-steps with two MEAs is not legal. That's why I said that if one states that only one "5'-step" may be taken per round, one is also saying that no other movement is allowed in that round. The 60' vs. 35' of movement argument seems good on the surface, until you realize that a 5'-step is SPECIAL in that it doesn't really count as movement and you cannot take any movement actions (including charging) if you take a 5'-step. This is, indeed, very simple. Take a 5'-step (to avoid an AoO or for other reasons) and get no other movement. That's about the simplest rule there is. Stop thinking about a 5'-step as being movment and start thinking about is as a small position adjustement you can take when you could not otherwise move (because of your other actions), and I think it all becomes clear. In a nutshell, what I'm saying is that: 1. The rules could be interpreted two ways, but the FAQ is "official", so that means the actual, "offical" rule is only one "5'-step" per round. Follow whatever rules you like, but that's the "offical" one - read the intro to the FAQ for it's "offical" status. 2. IF you follow the FAQ, it is really, really simple to do, as I've shown. 3. IF you don't follow the FAQ and operate with the partial action not "seeing" the regular actions(s), that's fairly simple, too (though I suspect with a few hidden traps having to do with things that are defined by "rounds" rather than "actions"). [/QUOTE]
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