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<blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 29300" data-attributes="member: 413">Re: Re: Re: Re: Another reference not citedNo one is saying that your interpritation is &quot;broken&quot;.&nbsp; We are saying it is wrong.&nbsp; We believe it is wrong because the 5' step is defined under MEAs because that is where they are most applicable during the normal course of the game but that doesn't mean that that definition doesn't applie to all other 5' steps.&nbsp;&nbsp; We give examples not to show your interpretation as broken, but illogical.Here's another.&nbsp; According to your interpretation, a hasted character may take standard action that includes an MEA and a 5' step(maybe draw a sword, 5' step and attack) and then an extra partial action that also includes a 5' step(single attack and 5' step back).&nbsp; But then you cannot do the reverse(because your MEA is not allowed to include a 5' step if it is AFTER a partial action that also included a 5' step since you have moved during the round).&nbsp; It is total nonsense.Here is another:&nbsp; A partial action can be an MEA.&nbsp; So what if you moved during your normal action, then used an MEA as your partial action(say...draw a new weapon).&nbsp; Can you take a 5' step or not?&nbsp; According to KD and co, you can since it is your extra partial action due to haste, but this breaks the &quot;one-per-round&quot; rule on p121 of the PHB since you are doing an MEA and have already moved during your round...which is it?&nbsp; It can't be both.If readied actions bother you so much, then just house rule it that a free action cannot trigger a readied action.&nbsp; Problem solved.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Uller, post: 29300, member: 413"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Another reference not cited[/b] No one is saying that your interpritation is "broken". We are saying it is wrong. We believe it is wrong because the 5' step is defined under MEAs because that is where they are most applicable during the normal course of the game but that doesn't mean that that definition doesn't applie to all other 5' steps. We give examples not to show your interpretation as broken, but illogical. Here's another. According to your interpretation, a hasted character may take standard action that includes an MEA and a 5' step(maybe draw a sword, 5' step and attack) and then an extra partial action that also includes a 5' step(single attack and 5' step back). But then you cannot do the reverse(because your MEA is not allowed to include a 5' step if it is AFTER a partial action that also included a 5' step since you have moved during the round). It is total nonsense. Here is another: A partial action can be an MEA. So what if you moved during your normal action, then used an MEA as your partial action(say...draw a new weapon). Can you take a 5' step or not? According to KD and co, you can since it is your extra partial action due to haste, but this breaks the "one-per-round" rule on p121 of the PHB since you are doing an MEA and have already moved during your round...which is it? It can't be both. If readied actions bother you so much, then just house rule it that a free action cannot trigger a readied action. Problem solved. [/QUOTE]

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