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<blockquote data-quote="SpikeyFreak" data-source="post: 29421" data-attributes="member: 705"><p>What!?!?! Once you have done the "move without AoO" in this situation, your round is over (unless you are hasted).</p><p></p><p>When you take your move to get out of combat, you are moving slowly to avoid being attacked. Thus once you are out of combat, your round is over and you CAN'T just decide, hey, I'm here, I'm going to do something because I only did a MEA.</p><p></p><p>The reason for that is exactly what you are talking about. You can't go back and do an AoO because that can cause a paradox with which there is no solution.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I move away from the 20th level ragin barbarian not provoking an AoO. I see that I am next to my dying friend (who will be dead next round), so I cast heal on him.</p><p></p><p>Oops, now we have to go back and do the AoO.</p><p></p><p>The AoO results in the barbarian getting a critical and doing 75 points damage, killing me. Hmm, now I haven't moved away AND done something else, so I haven't provoked an AoO and I shouldn't be dead.</p><p></p><p>There's a very simple solution.</p><p></p><p>If you say you are doing something that doesn't provoke an AoO, you can't do something later that would make the past action provoke an AoO.</p><p></p><p>There's a haste corollary: what you do in a haste action can't change something in a past action so that it provokes an AoO.</p><p></p><p>Seems to me like the best combination of simplicity and flexibility you can have.</p><p></p><p>--Thinking Spikey</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SpikeyFreak, post: 29421, member: 705"] What!?!?! Once you have done the "move without AoO" in this situation, your round is over (unless you are hasted). When you take your move to get out of combat, you are moving slowly to avoid being attacked. Thus once you are out of combat, your round is over and you CAN'T just decide, hey, I'm here, I'm going to do something because I only did a MEA. The reason for that is exactly what you are talking about. You can't go back and do an AoO because that can cause a paradox with which there is no solution. I move away from the 20th level ragin barbarian not provoking an AoO. I see that I am next to my dying friend (who will be dead next round), so I cast heal on him. Oops, now we have to go back and do the AoO. The AoO results in the barbarian getting a critical and doing 75 points damage, killing me. Hmm, now I haven't moved away AND done something else, so I haven't provoked an AoO and I shouldn't be dead. There's a very simple solution. If you say you are doing something that doesn't provoke an AoO, you can't do something later that would make the past action provoke an AoO. There's a haste corollary: what you do in a haste action can't change something in a past action so that it provokes an AoO. Seems to me like the best combination of simplicity and flexibility you can have. --Thinking Spikey [/QUOTE]
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