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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 34375" data-attributes="member: 2011">Yes I do think the contents of the parenthesis means that. But, “(a 5-foot step)” in parenthesis does not necessarily indicate the only way this must happen within the sentence. It might indicate a single example of how this can happen. The English language is like that: parenthesis can mean e.g. or they can mean i.e. For example, page 86 of PHB "Any surface (fresh snow, thick dust, wet mud) that holds deep, clear impressions of the footprints." Are you implying that items in parenthesis must mean i.e. instead of e.g.? If so, then for this example, fresh snow, thick dust, and wet mud are the ONLY surfaces that are very soft ground.“If your entire move for the round is 5 feet (a 5-foot step), enemies do not get attacks of opportunity for you moving.”How does this preclude you moving 5 feet and attacking during a round and not being AoOed?And, how does this have anything to do with the number of times you can take a “5 foot step” in a round?Answers: it doesn’t and it doesn’t.That sentence could mean either. A 5 foot step positional adjustment OR a 5 foot step as the sum of your total move for a round as part of normal movement. Either. Not just one. The parenthesis portion could just be an example. And again, it has no bearing whatsoever as support for your position.Example:I move 5 feet and attack.I attack and move 5 feet.I attack, pull out a potion, and move 5 feet.I pull out a potion, move 5 feet, and attack.In the first two cases, it is unclear and irrelevant whether the 5 feet is part of a standard move or a “5 foot step”. Now, you can rules lawyer argue that it must be a “5 foot step” since that is in parenthesis on both pages 117 and pages 122, but really. Who cares? What does that have to do with how many “5 foot steps” you can get in a round? All these statements indicate is that you do not get AoOed if you only take 5 foot of movement in a round. So, if Haste allowed you two 5 foot steps in a round, you would provoke a retroactive AoO with the first one. So what? It does not prove that it is not allowed. In fact, retroactive AoOs are part of the game.In the last two cases, it is quite clear that the 5 feet is part of a “5 foot step”. And in these cases, an AoO is still provoked. Not for movement, but for the MEA of pulling out the potion.So yes, I stated it that way. To me, this is a minor rules lawyer quibble. You still have to illustrate what AoOs have to do at all with how many 5 foot steps you can get. All they illustrate is how many you get and still not provoke an AoO. One.What’s worse, instead of discussing the real contents of my post, you fell apart on a stupid minor issue that really has no bearing on the number of 5 foot steps per round issue.The real contents of my post were:1) You have one rule that supports your position in any way and2) that one rule is limited to MEAs, hence, everything beyond MEAs is a total extrapolation on your part and3) no rules in the book explicitly talk about multi-actions rounds, hence, by default, we can only presume that they are correct with regard to single action rounds. So even the MEA rule is suspect with regard to multi-action rounds since it (nor any other rule) talks about multi-action rounds within it. Since the rules discuss single action rounds (i.e. full action, standard action, or partial) all over the place, anything beyond that is up to each individual DM.The fact is that both sides are shooting into the wind here and have no clear support since there is no true multi-action round rules in the book. Not one. All we have are best guesses, inferences, theories, and preferences. Yours are as good as mine. You refuse to admit it and want to be dumbfounded over a minor side issue. Fine.Finally, the glossary appears to support our position as much as it does yours."Usually (but not always), a 5-foot step is permitted in conjunction with a full-round action and may be taken at any point in a round. Most partial actions also permit a 5-foot step."According to this, it can be taken at any point in a round. During the normal action of Haste and during the partial action of Haste. Each individual action allows it.But again, this is not conclusive in any way since it does not talk about multi-action rounds and it could be disallowed if a different rule explicitly disallowed it.</blockquote>

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