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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6277000" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>What I find most interesting in those charts is all the other RPGs that came and went, like Dresden Files. I had forgotten it had done that well. And the appearance of Marvel Heroic which showed up, vanished, and was then cancelled. And the <em>Song of Ice and Fire</em> RPG doing so well years before <em>Game of Thrones</em> hit the air.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Something to keep in mind that in Q3 2010 (when Pathfinder and D&D tie) coves GenCon when Paizo released the <em>Advanced Player's Guide </em>and WotC released the <em>Monster Manual</em> <em>3 </em>and <em>Dark Sun</em> plus the Red Box. Not exactly light stuff.</p><p>During Q4 Paizo slips back into #2 and releases the <em>Bestiary 2</em> while WotC releases most of Essentials. And in Q1, D&D continues with Essentials while Paizo releases not much. But in Q2 Paizo releases <em>Ultimate Magic</em> while D&D cancels and delays a few books. That's when D&D really loses the crown. </p><p></p><p>It's hard to tell if D&D lost the #1 slot because of fewer books or if Pathfinder was really doing that well every time it released a player-centric book, or if Pathfinder hit #1 because its sales rose or if WotC's sales just dropped that much. We'll never know. </p><p>Regardless, WotC was still going full steam for Q3 2010 and wasn't doing so well against the best Paizo had to offer.</p><p></p><p>Still, I remember back in 2010 and 2011 when those charts were released and everyone on the WotC boards was tripping over themselves calling them inaccurate and not representational of their stores. Claiming Pathfinder was doing better and that 4e wasn't an unbridled success was heresy.</p><p>Time makes fools of us all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6277000, member: 37579"] What I find most interesting in those charts is all the other RPGs that came and went, like Dresden Files. I had forgotten it had done that well. And the appearance of Marvel Heroic which showed up, vanished, and was then cancelled. And the [I]Song of Ice and Fire[/I] RPG doing so well years before [I]Game of Thrones[/I] hit the air. Something to keep in mind that in Q3 2010 (when Pathfinder and D&D tie) coves GenCon when Paizo released the [I]Advanced Player's Guide [/I]and WotC released the [I]Monster Manual[/I] [I]3 [/I]and [I]Dark Sun[/I] plus the Red Box. Not exactly light stuff. During Q4 Paizo slips back into #2 and releases the [I]Bestiary 2[/I] while WotC releases most of Essentials. And in Q1, D&D continues with Essentials while Paizo releases not much. But in Q2 Paizo releases [I]Ultimate Magic[/I] while D&D cancels and delays a few books. That's when D&D really loses the crown. It's hard to tell if D&D lost the #1 slot because of fewer books or if Pathfinder was really doing that well every time it released a player-centric book, or if Pathfinder hit #1 because its sales rose or if WotC's sales just dropped that much. We'll never know. Regardless, WotC was still going full steam for Q3 2010 and wasn't doing so well against the best Paizo had to offer. Still, I remember back in 2010 and 2011 when those charts were released and everyone on the WotC boards was tripping over themselves calling them inaccurate and not representational of their stores. Claiming Pathfinder was doing better and that 4e wasn't an unbridled success was heresy. Time makes fools of us all. [/QUOTE]
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