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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 8476617" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>Well, I don't think any changes will necessarily stop the game from selling.</p><p></p><p>For me, there are things that I didn't like about 5e (proficiency bonus being the same for combat as experienced Warriors as bookworms, thats a load of bs if I ever saw one, take a trained combat soldier whose seen hours of combat and then compare it to the war reporter who's been imbedded and the combat soldier will beat the reporter any day of the week showing how wrong it is to have the same prof bonus to everyone).</p><p></p><p>HOWEVER...people have liked the game and it is easy to learn for many. I play 5e and actually do prefer it to some types of the other games out these days.</p><p></p><p>I have a bunch of 5e books (some of them several times over). That means for my gaming groups I'd probably still encourage others to get their own player materials.</p><p></p><p>Thus, when changes come about there are only a few items that would actually STOP ME from purchasing new materials.</p><p></p><p>T<strong>he #1 item with that is whether it is compatible with what I already have. If they make changes so radically different that those who play with the older materials are unbalanced vs. those who play with the new materials in a drastic way, or the materials cannot even be utilized seamlessly between the old and new materials...then THAT...and probably ONLY those items...are the deal breaker.</strong></p><p></p><p>That's the biggest thing that I think they'd need to pay attention to. With that in mind..</p><p></p><p>Stat bonuses will probably STILL be connected to race with the options from Tasha's also included in the book. If one doesn't do this it could make backward compatibility with those using the old PHB's (or those using Tasha's) rather awkward in many ways which would become VERY uncomfortable at the table VERY quickly in some instances. </p><p></p><p>Age, height and weight I think are negligible things which I don't think are going to affect people as much. Most of the time they come up with what they want in these categories anyways regardless of any other rulings or rules.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure changing the nomenclature of addressing an action a Monster can take from Spell to action or vice versa is going to actually cause any difficulties with backward compatibility or compatibility.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure how they will do alignment with the new Monster Manual. Presumably just a reprint, but I have no idea. For me, I don't think it would cause such a big difficulty for Backwards compatibility one way or the other, so for those in my boat, I don't think it matters that much.</p><p></p><p>Incorporating Class abilities from Tasha's could be problematic, depending on which ones for backwards compatible games of PHB only (there is a somewhat power jump there that could be difficult engaging the balance between older material gamers and newer material gamers)...BUT.... I imagine they might not do that because Tasha's is still going to be made available (and in it's own special set with two others option books on top of that soooo....).</p><p></p><p>I could care less if adventures carry warnings. That doesn't affect my game play. Not sure if that would affect others or not.</p><p></p><p>That said, that's my commentary on whether I'd stop buying or not in each of the issues listed above. AS I said, as a present 5e gamer, it's really based upon whether it is seamlessly compatible and integrate-able into my 5e game. If not, then that's the death knell. If it is...I don't see the problem.</p><p></p><p>I may be the minority though, but I think for many present gamers, that's what the real issue. If it is compatible than I think most won't care as much. If it isn't...it then comes to the 3.5 difficulty of trying to convince those who have the older materials to buy the new materials instead.</p><p></p><p>I think more than likely it's going to be small tweaks (such as integrating errata into the PHB, but otherwise it will be the same, and doing the same to the DMG and MM). Everything that I've heard doesn't sound like they are making any great or major changes to the core three. In addition, remember that they are PROBABLY still going to be selling Tasha's still as well as other supplements. I don't see them including the items in those supplements in the core three if they are continuing to sell those supplements unless they like losing money (unless people think they are going to invalidate the supplements and reprint everything as well)...so overall, wondering or worrying about them including all of Tasha's (or Xanathar's or Monsters of the Multiverse) in the core three is probably an exercise in futility.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 8476617, member: 4348"] Well, I don't think any changes will necessarily stop the game from selling. For me, there are things that I didn't like about 5e (proficiency bonus being the same for combat as experienced Warriors as bookworms, thats a load of bs if I ever saw one, take a trained combat soldier whose seen hours of combat and then compare it to the war reporter who's been imbedded and the combat soldier will beat the reporter any day of the week showing how wrong it is to have the same prof bonus to everyone). HOWEVER...people have liked the game and it is easy to learn for many. I play 5e and actually do prefer it to some types of the other games out these days. I have a bunch of 5e books (some of them several times over). That means for my gaming groups I'd probably still encourage others to get their own player materials. Thus, when changes come about there are only a few items that would actually STOP ME from purchasing new materials. T[B]he #1 item with that is whether it is compatible with what I already have. If they make changes so radically different that those who play with the older materials are unbalanced vs. those who play with the new materials in a drastic way, or the materials cannot even be utilized seamlessly between the old and new materials...then THAT...and probably ONLY those items...are the deal breaker.[/B] That's the biggest thing that I think they'd need to pay attention to. With that in mind.. Stat bonuses will probably STILL be connected to race with the options from Tasha's also included in the book. If one doesn't do this it could make backward compatibility with those using the old PHB's (or those using Tasha's) rather awkward in many ways which would become VERY uncomfortable at the table VERY quickly in some instances. Age, height and weight I think are negligible things which I don't think are going to affect people as much. Most of the time they come up with what they want in these categories anyways regardless of any other rulings or rules. I'm not sure changing the nomenclature of addressing an action a Monster can take from Spell to action or vice versa is going to actually cause any difficulties with backward compatibility or compatibility. I'm not sure how they will do alignment with the new Monster Manual. Presumably just a reprint, but I have no idea. For me, I don't think it would cause such a big difficulty for Backwards compatibility one way or the other, so for those in my boat, I don't think it matters that much. Incorporating Class abilities from Tasha's could be problematic, depending on which ones for backwards compatible games of PHB only (there is a somewhat power jump there that could be difficult engaging the balance between older material gamers and newer material gamers)...BUT.... I imagine they might not do that because Tasha's is still going to be made available (and in it's own special set with two others option books on top of that soooo....). I could care less if adventures carry warnings. That doesn't affect my game play. Not sure if that would affect others or not. That said, that's my commentary on whether I'd stop buying or not in each of the issues listed above. AS I said, as a present 5e gamer, it's really based upon whether it is seamlessly compatible and integrate-able into my 5e game. If not, then that's the death knell. If it is...I don't see the problem. I may be the minority though, but I think for many present gamers, that's what the real issue. If it is compatible than I think most won't care as much. If it isn't...it then comes to the 3.5 difficulty of trying to convince those who have the older materials to buy the new materials instead. I think more than likely it's going to be small tweaks (such as integrating errata into the PHB, but otherwise it will be the same, and doing the same to the DMG and MM). Everything that I've heard doesn't sound like they are making any great or major changes to the core three. In addition, remember that they are PROBABLY still going to be selling Tasha's still as well as other supplements. I don't see them including the items in those supplements in the core three if they are continuing to sell those supplements unless they like losing money (unless people think they are going to invalidate the supplements and reprint everything as well)...so overall, wondering or worrying about them including all of Tasha's (or Xanathar's or Monsters of the Multiverse) in the core three is probably an exercise in futility. [/QUOTE]
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