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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8477101" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Yeah, I don't think so mate.</p><p></p><p>We've already established enough changes, including the execution of at least one sacred cow (stat mods) that there are "major changes". Sure, it's likely more like 1E to 2E, but if that's not enough to qualify as "major change", then the problem is with your definition of "major change". So that's already definite.</p><p></p><p>There will absolutely be incompatibilities. It's just likely that they'll be soft incompatibilities, rather than hard ones. Again, this is the pattern from 1E to 2E. There will be spells that work differently in some fairly major way in 5E. That's an incompatibility. There will be class features changed such that some previous subclasses don't work cleanly with them - that is almost certain.</p><p></p><p>As for DDB, WotC has relatively little incentive to help them. It's an open secret that WotC has their own DDB-equivalent (w/VTT) on the way. There is no question that will basically eat DDB's lunch unless WotC's implementation is terrible. As for "the backlash", what backlash? The only backlash will be if WotC refuse to give licences to DDB, Roll 20 and so on, which they won't do. If they just instead undermine them by release their own service in "beta" with access to 5.5E before them, or similar, there will not be meaningful "backlash". And do you really think DDB could cope with the number of updates/changes we're likely to see? I am skeptical. I've used DDB for years, but they're been very bad at keeping up with updates, changes, and additions, especially anything truly new. They can't even handle UA. I think it's highly likely that they'll do only a partial implementation of 5.5/6E at first, and that will be on them, and the people who own them and prefer to extract cash instead of investing in their site.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8477101, member: 18"] Yeah, I don't think so mate. We've already established enough changes, including the execution of at least one sacred cow (stat mods) that there are "major changes". Sure, it's likely more like 1E to 2E, but if that's not enough to qualify as "major change", then the problem is with your definition of "major change". So that's already definite. There will absolutely be incompatibilities. It's just likely that they'll be soft incompatibilities, rather than hard ones. Again, this is the pattern from 1E to 2E. There will be spells that work differently in some fairly major way in 5E. That's an incompatibility. There will be class features changed such that some previous subclasses don't work cleanly with them - that is almost certain. As for DDB, WotC has relatively little incentive to help them. It's an open secret that WotC has their own DDB-equivalent (w/VTT) on the way. There is no question that will basically eat DDB's lunch unless WotC's implementation is terrible. As for "the backlash", what backlash? The only backlash will be if WotC refuse to give licences to DDB, Roll 20 and so on, which they won't do. If they just instead undermine them by release their own service in "beta" with access to 5.5E before them, or similar, there will not be meaningful "backlash". And do you really think DDB could cope with the number of updates/changes we're likely to see? I am skeptical. I've used DDB for years, but they're been very bad at keeping up with updates, changes, and additions, especially anything truly new. They can't even handle UA. I think it's highly likely that they'll do only a partial implementation of 5.5/6E at first, and that will be on them, and the people who own them and prefer to extract cash instead of investing in their site. [/QUOTE]
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