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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 8481049" data-attributes="member: 7026594"><p>Geoff cited a couple of numerical examples. I was wondering how accurate they are. Sometimes something can FEEL really skewed, then when we count it, it turns out to be different than we thought. Or (deliberately or inadvertently) cherry-picked.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So if you can remember roughly when this span was, we could (for example) count whether it was indeed 20 episodes, and confirm whether during that span every single guest was a POC or gay. It might turn out that the actual number was significantly shorter, but that the subjective feeling was exaggerated.</p><p></p><p>Ancillary to that, we could discuss whether "proportionate representation to the majority of the fan base" is or should be the goal! Ruth Bader Ginsberg was asked once when female inclusion on the Supreme Court would be enough. When, essentially, could we relax and stop worrying about equal representation on the court? How many female justices would that take? And she opined "When there are nine." That, given that historically the court had been all-male for most of its existence, in her estimation one couldn't really consider things balanced until and unless "just choosing the best person" had happened to line up 9 women. At that point we could reasonably say that we're past the issue.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This one seems like another good candidate for measurement, to see what the actual percentage is, vs. what the subjective impression is.</p><p></p><p>The conversation also reminds me of those studies showing perceptions of who talks longer in meetings, which seem to consistently demonstrate that men talk much more than women, and that when the percentage shifts closer to parity, the men typically perceive this as the women dominating the conversation and doing most of the talking.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 8481049, member: 7026594"] Geoff cited a couple of numerical examples. I was wondering how accurate they are. Sometimes something can FEEL really skewed, then when we count it, it turns out to be different than we thought. Or (deliberately or inadvertently) cherry-picked. So if you can remember roughly when this span was, we could (for example) count whether it was indeed 20 episodes, and confirm whether during that span every single guest was a POC or gay. It might turn out that the actual number was significantly shorter, but that the subjective feeling was exaggerated. Ancillary to that, we could discuss whether "proportionate representation to the majority of the fan base" is or should be the goal! Ruth Bader Ginsberg was asked once when female inclusion on the Supreme Court would be enough. When, essentially, could we relax and stop worrying about equal representation on the court? How many female justices would that take? And she opined "When there are nine." That, given that historically the court had been all-male for most of its existence, in her estimation one couldn't really consider things balanced until and unless "just choosing the best person" had happened to line up 9 women. At that point we could reasonably say that we're past the issue. This one seems like another good candidate for measurement, to see what the actual percentage is, vs. what the subjective impression is. The conversation also reminds me of those studies showing perceptions of who talks longer in meetings, which seem to consistently demonstrate that men talk much more than women, and that when the percentage shifts closer to parity, the men typically perceive this as the women dominating the conversation and doing most of the talking. [/QUOTE]
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