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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mearls" data-source="post: 9573206" data-attributes="member: 697">It's interesting to consider how both the individual monsters have changed and how the encounter guidelines have changed.This is for 12th level characters.A hard encounter in 5.5 has 4700 xp of monsters per character. Let's assume a party of 4, for 18,800 xpIn 5e, you'd have 12,000 xp for the same encounter.If we go with one monster for the encounter (mainly to avoid 5e's rules for adding more creatures to an encounter), we find that:5.5 Encounter: CR 17 creature5e Encounter: CR 14 creatureUsing the 2014 DMG, that CR 14 creature is projected to do 87 to 92 damage a round. Looking at Teos' numbers, that goes up to 157 for the 5.5 CR 17 critter.In the 2014 DMG, the CR 14 creature should have about 266 to 288 hit points. I might be misreading this, but looking at the screenshot it looks like a 5.5 creature with CR 17 would have 254 hit points. How is that lower? Weird.The damage looks much better, but the hit points are crazy low for a creature that has to take on four characters. I watched Teos' video yesterday while working, so I'll need to double back and check it again.Roughly speaking, there is a fundamental flaw in the math of 5e. Creatures scale poorly.A relatively high CR creature lacks the hit points and action economy to survive long against a lower level party.A relatively low CR creature turns into an ineffective bag of hit points against higher level parties, causing encounters to drag out.I'm curious to see if the revisions fixes this. I was disappointed to see that the DMG encounter guidelines were so thin, because there are ways to slice the existing math without XP or CR to build out encounters (aggregate hit points and damage).</blockquote>

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