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<blockquote data-quote="Esker" data-source="post: 7788125" data-attributes="member: 6966824">Sure, you could do that instead, but it seems like between your belief that rogues shouldn't be mathematically better at skills than other classes and your interest in giving them extra attack and various other combat abilities that you mentioned in the other thread, you're already part of the way to turning them into a type of fighter. So why not give it a try? What would the rogue look like if it were converted into a fighter subclass? Maybe something like:Level 3: some kind of skill perk, and the option to swap proficiency in CON saves for proficiency in DEX savesLevel 3: some kind of sneak attack-like ability, with slower scaling than the actual Sneak Attack ability: maybe an extra 1d8 once per turn, requiring the attack action to activate, scaling to 2d8 at level 7, 3d8 at level 10, 4d8 at level 15, and 5d8 at level 18, restricted to finesse and ranged weaponsLevel 7: Uncanny DodgeLevel 10: EvasionLevel 15: Slippery MindLevel 18: Elusive</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Esker, post: 7788125, member: 6966824"] Sure, you could do that instead, but it seems like between your belief that rogues shouldn't be mathematically better at skills than other classes and your interest in giving them extra attack and various other combat abilities that you mentioned in the other thread, you're already part of the way to turning them into a type of fighter. So why not give it a try? What would the rogue look like if it were converted into a fighter subclass? Maybe something like: [B]Level 3: [/B]some kind of skill perk, and the option to swap proficiency in CON saves for proficiency in DEX saves [B]Level 3:[/B] some kind of sneak attack-like ability, with slower scaling than the actual Sneak Attack ability: maybe an extra 1d8 once per turn, requiring the attack action to activate, scaling to 2d8 at level 7, 3d8 at level 10, 4d8 at level 15, and 5d8 at level 18, restricted to finesse and ranged weapons [B]Level 7: [/B]Uncanny Dodge [B]Level 10: [/B]Evasion [B]Level 15: [/B]Slippery Mind [B]Level 18: [/B]Elusive [/QUOTE]

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