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Message: <blockquote data-quote="malkav666" data-source="post: 5780935" data-attributes="member: 70565">To be fair, all editions have brand loyal, vocal fans. It kind of comes with the territory and I try not to judge entire communities of fans based on the vitriol and conviction of a few. If I did, then i wouldn't be able to talk about games with anyone because all of those communities have their duds. I assure that this is largely confined to the internet, where in many cases without visual aids, body language, or any caliber of a social normality for the group, that the main goal of the most vocal displays are typically: I am right, you are  wrong. In the real world if someone says the game they play or the hobby they have is better than mine and we discuss it, I find it is usually a pleasant experience that usually ends up with us gaming together to prove our points, as opposed to bickering. Although there are always exceptions.   And to answer your question. There is nothing WOTC can do it this point to make me STOP buying Pathfinder stuff. The folks over at Paizo have listened to my wants and input, and tried to make a game that I have a stake in from a design standpoint. They are very open about their aims and generally strike pretty close to the mark on the "this is what we promised +/- this is what you get" spectrum of things. But I am not a monogamous gamer. If WOTC wants to make a game that I am interested in, and they do a good job, I will support it. My group alternates 2 campaigns.I could see one one them easily being 5e if it is done well. WOTC doesn't have to win me back from Paizo. I have always bought games from more than one company. If they want some of my gaming dollars they just have to make a game that appeals to me and while they won't win me, they could very well win back a few of my gaming dollars that would otherwise be spent on other things. What better prize is there in product design than winning a dollar (or 50 of them)?I didn't mean to take your thread off topic. I thought it was a general discussion of what you wanted in 5e. I wasn't trying to not talk about the things you wanted. I was just offering an opposing view and some possible ramifications of the actual delivery of the system you presented in your first post. But I will bow out. Thanks for the chit chat.love,malkav</blockquote>

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