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5e and the Cheesecake Factory: Explaining Good Enough
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<blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 8201525" data-attributes="member: 6879661"><p>I’m yet to hear what system is fundamentally better though. This isn’t a statement asking for a big argument about which is the best TTRPG. It’s a statement to say, other systems I see discussed, as good as they are at some things usually have their own set of flaws. We can’t even agree on what would make a TTRPG the best. Let alone where games rank on those measures. I hope it’s beyond the scope of this thread.</p><p></p><p>When people say D&D is the most popular because it’s all they know (or have been brainwashed) then I get uncomfortable. I dislike snide arguments that rely on the assumption that the population is dumber than they are, and can’t make decisions ‘correctly’ and doesn’t know what they want.</p><p></p><p>In some things the market is a lousy way of deciding how good something is. However when it comes to hobby materials I reckon it’s just fine. Particularly when it’s not a flavor of the month and success is sustained.</p><p></p><p>As for the argument that I’m a rabid fanboy who only likes D&D. I’ll say that it hasn’t always been rosy for WOC and certainly not TSR. 4e - as innovative as it was - saw the company shrink financially and it was knocked off the top spot by Pathfinder. 2e/AD&D was lukewarm to me and I played more of other systems than that one. 3e was fun, but also suffered from crippling bloat and imbalance. I have no loyalty to the D&D brand beyond the quality of the product they release.</p><p></p><p>It just happens that they’re releasing good stuff now, and that makes me put away my other systems and play this one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheSword, post: 8201525, member: 6879661"] I’m yet to hear what system is fundamentally better though. This isn’t a statement asking for a big argument about which is the best TTRPG. It’s a statement to say, other systems I see discussed, as good as they are at some things usually have their own set of flaws. We can’t even agree on what would make a TTRPG the best. Let alone where games rank on those measures. I hope it’s beyond the scope of this thread. When people say D&D is the most popular because it’s all they know (or have been brainwashed) then I get uncomfortable. I dislike snide arguments that rely on the assumption that the population is dumber than they are, and can’t make decisions ‘correctly’ and doesn’t know what they want. In some things the market is a lousy way of deciding how good something is. However when it comes to hobby materials I reckon it’s just fine. Particularly when it’s not a flavor of the month and success is sustained. As for the argument that I’m a rabid fanboy who only likes D&D. I’ll say that it hasn’t always been rosy for WOC and certainly not TSR. 4e - as innovative as it was - saw the company shrink financially and it was knocked off the top spot by Pathfinder. 2e/AD&D was lukewarm to me and I played more of other systems than that one. 3e was fun, but also suffered from crippling bloat and imbalance. I have no loyalty to the D&D brand beyond the quality of the product they release. It just happens that they’re releasing good stuff now, and that makes me put away my other systems and play this one. [/QUOTE]
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