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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 5913261" data-attributes="member: 8461">Anything can be summarized as "it can work, or fail." That's not what we're discussing, though.The difference is that WotC will hopefully be cogent, as an organization, to realize that they can avoid that happening again without simply avoiding the OGL altogether.Again, you keep fixating on the idea that because B cannot exist without A, that somehow means that A is the actual cause of B, and that makes your statement that "[the OGL] generated a competitor that is devastating [WotC]" not be a fallacy. That remains a faulty line of logic.Which doesn't deal at all with the question of your original statement being a fallacy. This also doesn't change the fact that this wasn't your original stance on the topic - which was that WotC avoiding the OGL to avoid another major competitor is not a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, when it is in fact such a fallacy.No, because the doctor isn't making a statement about causation. You were.It's also pointless to presume that avoiding the OGL will in any way prevent competition, since there are already other popular role-playing games on the market that don't use the OGL, and because the OGL is already out there, and because game rules cannot be copyrighted anyway.It's also worth noting that this isn't an attempt to say you haven't made a logical fallacy previously, but rather is an attempt to change the issue altogether (see above).This is a disingenuous statement, as I never said you said that if WotC releases Fifth Edition under the OGL there would be a new Pathfinder. I said you were attempting to deny having made a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy by insisting that something that is a necessary prerequisite for something else is therefore the cause of that something else, which is false.Again, this is simplistic view, as the tabletop role-playing game market is permeable compared to other entertainment pastimes.You've made another poor analogy. Someone who buys a Samsung electronic product is probably not going to want another of that same product. Someone who buys a given RPG is probably going to want to buy another RPG.You did, in fact, state that WotC thinks that releasing Fifth Edition under the OGL would result in another Pathfinder - you simply stated that in the context of something they wanted to avoid; hence, you did make that fallacy.</blockquote>

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