Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
5e Are Ioun stones supposed to need attunement?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7595473" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>Here it (finally) is:</p><p></p><p><strong>Congenio's Ritual</strong></p><p>Over the course over a tenday, you join the temple's elder in retreat, in an attempt to unlock the mystical energies of Ioun stones. As a prerequisite you must permanently devote one of your attunement slots to Ioun – it can no longer be used to attune any other item than Ioun stones. Then make three DC 20 Intelligence (Arcana) ability checks, each taking 8 hours of time. Each success means one extra Ioun stone can share the attunement slot you devoted to Ioun.</p><p></p><p>Developer's Notes:</p><p>- Yes, DC 20. This ritual can't be too much of a no-brainer for high-level wizards. Setting the DC to a reasonable number for everybody else just means it becomes a free lunch for Wizards.</p><p>- the time expenditure is intentional, to disallow short-term buffing. That is, you're not supposed to be able to claim trivial bonuses (Cleric's Bless, Bard's Inspiration etc). You need buffing spells with a minimum of 8 hours duration unless the DM feels like making this particularly easy for the players. </p><p>- knowing how crafty players can be in minmaxing particular outcomes, I set the DC to 20 fully expecting the character to make these checks with advantage, and with a bonus that likely is bigger than just ability plus proficiency, and maybe some form of re-roll as well. That is, expect your players to score at least two successes if they really set their mind to it! (If you have a Rogue with the Reliable Talent, they should easily claim all three successes)</p><p>- each success represents a major boon*, since we assume ioun stones aren't less useful than other items on average. (Indeed, the Mastery stone is one of the best items all categories) Meaning that even one success isn't meant as some kind of half-failure. Instead each success really is worth celebrating! *) Obviously assuming you find any ioun stones. The ritual is balanced on this assumption. Players usually find a way.</p><p>- the worst case scenario: you fail all three checks. This merely means one of your slots is permanently devoted to Ioun. But I can't see anyone performing this ritual without already having a half-decent Ioun stone, so this should in practice never mean "I was reduced to only two slots". That is, the intent is that the price of failure is almost only the missed opportunity.</p><p>- the best case scenario: you succeed at all three checks. The main purpose is to explain and allow what Realms canon already suggest: characters with a "cloud" of ioun stones. This result allows no less than 6 ioun stones in total (4 in the "ioun slot" and two more in your regular, unaffected, attunement slots) which counts as a "cloud" as far as I'm concerned. </p><p>- since you must still find a lot of ioun stones, I don't expect more than one character (with reasonable luck) to attempt this ritual.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7595473, member: 12731"] Here it (finally) is: [B]Congenio's Ritual[/B] Over the course over a tenday, you join the temple's elder in retreat, in an attempt to unlock the mystical energies of Ioun stones. As a prerequisite you must permanently devote one of your attunement slots to Ioun – it can no longer be used to attune any other item than Ioun stones. Then make three DC 20 Intelligence (Arcana) ability checks, each taking 8 hours of time. Each success means one extra Ioun stone can share the attunement slot you devoted to Ioun. Developer's Notes: - Yes, DC 20. This ritual can't be too much of a no-brainer for high-level wizards. Setting the DC to a reasonable number for everybody else just means it becomes a free lunch for Wizards. - the time expenditure is intentional, to disallow short-term buffing. That is, you're not supposed to be able to claim trivial bonuses (Cleric's Bless, Bard's Inspiration etc). You need buffing spells with a minimum of 8 hours duration unless the DM feels like making this particularly easy for the players. - knowing how crafty players can be in minmaxing particular outcomes, I set the DC to 20 fully expecting the character to make these checks with advantage, and with a bonus that likely is bigger than just ability plus proficiency, and maybe some form of re-roll as well. That is, expect your players to score at least two successes if they really set their mind to it! (If you have a Rogue with the Reliable Talent, they should easily claim all three successes) - each success represents a major boon*, since we assume ioun stones aren't less useful than other items on average. (Indeed, the Mastery stone is one of the best items all categories) Meaning that even one success isn't meant as some kind of half-failure. Instead each success really is worth celebrating! *) Obviously assuming you find any ioun stones. The ritual is balanced on this assumption. Players usually find a way. - the worst case scenario: you fail all three checks. This merely means one of your slots is permanently devoted to Ioun. But I can't see anyone performing this ritual without already having a half-decent Ioun stone, so this should in practice never mean "I was reduced to only two slots". That is, the intent is that the price of failure is almost only the missed opportunity. - the best case scenario: you succeed at all three checks. The main purpose is to explain and allow what Realms canon already suggest: characters with a "cloud" of ioun stones. This result allows no less than 6 ioun stones in total (4 in the "ioun slot" and two more in your regular, unaffected, attunement slots) which counts as a "cloud" as far as I'm concerned. - since you must still find a lot of ioun stones, I don't expect more than one character (with reasonable luck) to attempt this ritual. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
5e Are Ioun stones supposed to need attunement?
Top