Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
5e Build help
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Steve 'Raziel' Davis" data-source="post: 7336979" data-attributes="member: 6937221"><p>How would it continuously trigger? You have to hit once to curse the target and again to trigger the effect. Once that happens, the curse ends at the end of your second turn and the process can be repeated if you hit the creature again in the third round. So the pattern goes prime, effect, 2 rounds every time. This is only because you can only cast one cantrip per round however. So is what you are telling me, if I were to Ray of Frost, hit, thus cursing the target, and then action surge (provided I had the feature) and Lightning Lure that the curse would not get it's effect that same turn? The curse says once per turn, and lasts until the end of your next turn.. That would suggest you can indeed trigger it twice before it ends. If that's not what you were talking about, then forgive me, I misunderstood. Regardless, I fail to see how using Eldritch Blast with a rider would be any different than using Ray of Frost, Shocking Grasp, or Lightning Lure, all three of those trigger the curse. I know of no other forced movement cantrip besides an augmented Eldritch Blast. Is there one I am overlooking?</p><p></p><p>As far as the question will they interact with each other, I have asked Jeremy and hope to get an answer soon. It appears some in the community consider invocations that grant or change spells are indeed spells with different names. Mage armor at will becomes armor of shadows, adding your charisma mod to Eldritch blast changes it to agonizing blast, etc. I'm not here to debate any of that, in reality, if my DM says that it does interact, then it really doesn't matter what I or anyone else say. The reason I was here was to get some build help on building a crowd control semi caster with utility options for survival. The 1 level of sorc and 2 of warlock are locked in. I was just looking where to go from there and thought mystic would be a good place to pick up more cc and great utility/survivability.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steve 'Raziel' Davis, post: 7336979, member: 6937221"] How would it continuously trigger? You have to hit once to curse the target and again to trigger the effect. Once that happens, the curse ends at the end of your second turn and the process can be repeated if you hit the creature again in the third round. So the pattern goes prime, effect, 2 rounds every time. This is only because you can only cast one cantrip per round however. So is what you are telling me, if I were to Ray of Frost, hit, thus cursing the target, and then action surge (provided I had the feature) and Lightning Lure that the curse would not get it's effect that same turn? The curse says once per turn, and lasts until the end of your next turn.. That would suggest you can indeed trigger it twice before it ends. If that's not what you were talking about, then forgive me, I misunderstood. Regardless, I fail to see how using Eldritch Blast with a rider would be any different than using Ray of Frost, Shocking Grasp, or Lightning Lure, all three of those trigger the curse. I know of no other forced movement cantrip besides an augmented Eldritch Blast. Is there one I am overlooking? As far as the question will they interact with each other, I have asked Jeremy and hope to get an answer soon. It appears some in the community consider invocations that grant or change spells are indeed spells with different names. Mage armor at will becomes armor of shadows, adding your charisma mod to Eldritch blast changes it to agonizing blast, etc. I'm not here to debate any of that, in reality, if my DM says that it does interact, then it really doesn't matter what I or anyone else say. The reason I was here was to get some build help on building a crowd control semi caster with utility options for survival. The 1 level of sorc and 2 of warlock are locked in. I was just looking where to go from there and thought mystic would be a good place to pick up more cc and great utility/survivability. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
5e Build help
Top