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[5E Build] The Arcane Juggernaut
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<blockquote data-quote="DarkTechnomancer" data-source="post: 6903095" data-attributes="member: 6855764"><p>Hey, so usually I am a lurker around these forums, and I've read a lot of great stuff and gotten some fun ideas for builds from this community and others like it. Today I felt like giving back with a simple build that I have been playing around with that I've found to be a lot of fun. I've never written anything like this before, or even posted on these forums, so bear with me if this is a bit rough around the edges.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px">[h=4]<strong>Concept</strong>[/h]</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px">Originally this build started when I was trying to find out what the highest possible AC would be without using magic items. As such, the core concept of the build remains as attempting to optimize AC as <span style="font-size: 10px">much</span> as possible within a viable build. It turns out that the core of this build is fairly small and flexible, and as such this is likely to read more like a guide than a specific build. The playstyle of this build focuses on trying to pin down enemies, forcing them to either attack you and likely miss or take opportunity attacks.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span>[h=4]<strong>Format</strong>[/h]<span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #333333"><strong>Occasionally I will use fancy colored text to indicate things that are important or how good an option is</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Red</strong></span><span style="color: #333333"> means don't do this. Usually to indicate something that seems good at a glance, but has some glaring problem that makes it terrible.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #800080"><strong>Purple</strong></span><span style="color: #333333"> means that it could be useful in certain situations, but that you're likely better picking another option. Only tolerate this if your higher concept falls apart without it.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #333333"><strong>Black </strong>is not a fancy color. It doesn't mean much.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>Blue</strong></span><span style="color: #333333"> is good. Usually won't be build-defining, but will be used to indicate nice bonuses or good options.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>Sky Blue </strong></span><span style="color: #333333">is great! I'll use this to indicate really good options for the build. You should have a pretty good reason to not take these.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #daa520"><strong>Gold</strong></span><span style="color: #333333"> is mandatory. These are options or features around which the entire build is defined or otherwise so good you'd be a fool to pass on them.</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px">[h=4]<strong>The Core</strong>[/h]</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px">It probably comes as no surprise given the title of the thread that this build relies on the <span style="color: #daa520"><strong>Bladesinger Arcane Tradition</strong></span> and more specifically, <span style="color: #daa520"><strong>Bladesong</strong></span>. I did some searching and it comes as no surprise that I'm not the first to notice how strong the feature is for AC. <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?485301-The-Most-Annoying-Wizard-Ever-A-Bladesinger-Build" target="_blank">Another thread</a> based on a similar concept has already been created, though that build focuses on maximizing the survivability of a pure wizard. The reason Bladesong is so powerful is because it adds a second ability modifier to AC without "setting" your AC like other similar abilities. This allows it to stack with things like <span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>Mage Armor</strong></span>, or even another classes <strong><span style="color: #ff0000">Unarmored Defense</span></strong> feature.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px">The third and final level of the core can be one of two options, and they each have their pros and cons.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>Option 1)</strong> A third level of wizard. This lets us cast <span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>Blur</strong></span> forcing disadvantage on any enemies which rely on sight to attack. And gives us the ability to write second level spells into the spellbook. A solid option, but blurs limitations are not to be underestimated. Even lowly bats and giant spiders can ignore blur. I recommend this option only if you plan to make Wizard your main class, and even then, it may suit you to take the second option anyway.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>Option 2)</strong> A level of cleric. <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Knowledge Domain Cleric</span></strong> is already a well known single-level dip for wizards. For this build it also provides a pair of great options for self-buffing survivability in <span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>Shield of Faith</strong></span> and <span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>Bless</strong></span>. Shield of Faith is not normally an especially impressive spell for clerics or paladins, but Bladesong's bonus to concentration saves makes it a more viable self-buff, cast as a bonus-action no less. Bless is of course known as THE combat buff, and for the Arcane juggernaut it can be used as an alternative against more save-heavy opponents or if <span style="color: #daa520"><strong>nobody else has bless</strong></span>. The downside is the 13 WIS requirement, which is hard on an already somewhat MAD build. Potentially worth the investment.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong>Option 3)</strong> Both. Depending on what you want your main class to be, you could always do both. Cleric 1/Wizard 3 is a fine core, and still light enough to get all the ASIs necessary you max your AC by level 20 no matter what your main class is. You'll be a little bit slower to catch up, but it does give you a lot of early versatility on which self buffs to use depending on the situation.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px">[h=4]<strong>Attributes</strong>[/h]</span></span></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">Strength</span></strong>: 8 - By necessity, this is a dex-based build. We have no use for Strength.</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="color: #daa520">Dexterity</span></strong>: 16 - Our main attack stat and our primary source of hard AC. Max this.</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Constitution</span></strong>: 12-14 - HP is good, con saves are good, but unfortunately there is little room in the build to invest heavily in CON. Get it as high as you can afford.</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="color: #daa520">Intelligence</span></strong>: 16 - Another major source of AC, we'll want to max this after Dex.</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="color: #800080">Wisdom</span></strong>: 10-13 - We don't really want to dump this, because perception wisdom saves are good. But only go higher than 10 if you need to make the requirements for Cleric.</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #800080"><strong>Charisma</strong></span>: 8-13 - If you're not going Cleric, you have enough extra points for it without dumping Wisdom, and you want to take a Charisma-based class, go to 13. Otherwise, dump.</span></span></span></span></li> </ul><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px">[h=4]<strong>Race Options</strong>[/h]</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px">Due to the highly MAD nature of the build, and the requirement to get 16 in both Dex and Int, there aren't many options here, even fewer depending on the DM, so I'll start with the most obvious.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>High Elf</strong></span>: This race (or Half-Elf) is <span style="color: #daa520"><strong>mandatory</strong></span> if your DM is picky about the Bladesinger Lore and chooses to enforce the elf-only restriction. With the Int requirements only the High Elf sub-race qualifies. The biggest benefits here are the <span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>Fey Ancestry</strong></span> which helps make up for low Wisdom and <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Darkvision</span></strong>. The extra <span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>cantrip</strong></span> is nice, but mostly unnecessary. If your DM lets you pick the Eladrin variant you trade the cantrip and extra language for <span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>Misty Step</strong></span> once per short rest, which is probably better. Weapon Proficiency is mostly made obsolete by Bladesinger, but Longbow can be nice if your <span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>class doesn't start with it</strong></span>.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>Half Elf</strong></span>: The only other option for DMs enforcing the restriction. Not a bad choice at all, offering many of the same benefits as Elf. Fantastic <span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>attribute bonuses</strong></span> (too bad it's Charisma and not Wisdom). As well as <span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>Extra Skills</strong></span> which are always welcome. One of only two options that can <span style="color: #800080"><strong>main-class Paladin</strong></span> but probably the worse option of the two. If playing a Variant, I recommend either Weapon Training (if your starting class is not proficient with Longbow) or the extra Cantrip. The extra walk speed could also be good (45' movement is no joke).</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>Human (Variant)</strong></span>: There are a lot of feats which can benefit this build significantly, which I will cover further down. As with almost any build, variant human is a viable option.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="color: #800080">Human</span></strong>: This may seem like an odd one to mention, since regular humans are legendary in their lameness. However, it's the only viable option if you want to <span style="color: #daa520"><strong>main-class Paladin</strong></span>. I don't know if that is worth it. But there it is.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>Forest Gnome</strong></span>: It's got the stats and not much else. <span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>Minor Illusion</strong></span> is alright, but doesn't do a lot for the build. <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Gnome Cunning</span></strong> is as good as Fey Ancestry most of the time, and sometimes even better. <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Darkvision </span></strong>is always appreciated.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>Deep Gnome</strong></span>: Mostly the same as forest gnome, though they trade Minor Illusion for <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Super Darkvision</span></strong>. <span style="color: #800080"><strong>Stone Camouflage</strong></span> is better if you <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">main Rogue</span></strong>.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Tiefling (Feral)</span></strong>: A pretty interesting choice, mostly vanilla, though as always <span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>Darkvision</strong></span> is nice. <strong><span style="color: #ff0000">Infernal Legacy</span></strong> is useless without Charisma, so I recommend the Winged Variant, which gives <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">30' Fly speed</span></strong> (make sure you get Feather Fall!). Unfortunately I don't think the fly speed is affected by Bladesong.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>All other races</strong></span>: As of writing this, no other races meet the int/dex requirements, and as such are not viable options for this build.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span>[h=4]<strong>Starting and Main Classes</strong>[/h]</p><p>So far I've mentioned starting class and main class several times. Since the core of this build is so small, it is very flexible in terms of what kind of character you want to build around it. I'm not going to go in-depth on every class, but I will mention each of the viable options and briefly discuss their benefits. I'll start with the core classes, then move into some recommended classes. Starting in a non-core class delays when your build gets "online" but can offer some significant benefits.</p><p></p><p><strong>Wizard</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: #800080"><strong>As a starting class</strong></span>: Not much to this. Wizard doesn't really give you anything for starting in it that you wouldn't get from cross-classing. If you intend to have other classes at all, it's probably better to start in them instead. Of course, if you do start wizard, you'll get your Bladesong that much faster.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>As a main class</strong>: As mentioned in <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?485301-The-Most-Annoying-Wizard-Ever-A-Bladesinger-Build" target="_blank">Lillika's Bladesinger thread</a> being a full caster with massive AC can be a real headache for bloodthirsty DMs. Unfortunately, burning your concentration on Blur, Bless, or Shield of Faith somewhat limits your utility as a caster, you could always sacrifice your defense for more flexible spellcasting, but at that point you're pretty much just a regular wizard. Wizard also ends up with pretty low HP, though you can make up for that somewhat with the Song of Defense feature from Bladesinger. It's not a bad option, but I think that there are other classes that suit the build better.</li> </ul><p><strong>Cleric</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">As a starting class</span></strong>: This is a pretty good one to start in. <span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>Medium armor and shields</strong></span> can tide you over until your Bladesinger features kick in. Combined with Shield of Faith, you can reasonably expect <span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>20 AC at level 1</strong></span>. <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Wisdom save</span></strong> proficiency is not bad either. Weaponry is a bit awkward. You'll pretty much be stuck with daggers unless you got Shortsword proficiency from a racial trait.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>As a main class</strong></span>: Not much here, unfortunately. We can't really afford to invest heavily in Wisdom, and as a caster the Cleric is fairly light on features. You just sort of end up being a bad cleric that never dies.</li> </ul><p><strong>Fighter</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>As a starting class</strong></span>: This is a fantastic class to start in. Like cleric the <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">armor and shield</span></strong> proficiency can keep your defenses competitive until your core classes kick in. Proficiency with <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">every weapon </span></strong>means not having to fret over carrying around a useless Rapier for a few levels, you can start with it and use it right away. <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Con saves</span></strong> are the best, especially for a class that relies on concentration buffs. <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Fighting Style</span></strong> and <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Second wind</span></strong> at level 1 are fantastic. And on top of it all, the best <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">starting HP</span></strong> (we're never going to be barbarian with this build).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>As a main class</strong></span>: Supporting the Fighter start even further is the fact that is is also a spectacular main class. Great features in <span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>Action Surge</strong></span>, <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Extra Attacks</span></strong>, and <strong><span style="color: #daa520">extra ASIs</span></strong> help manage the MADness of the class and support the build with extra feats (which no other class can afford). <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Eldritch Knight</span></strong> is an obvious match, not only for the flavor, but because the <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">War Magic</span></strong> feature helps fill some DPR gaps in the mid levels. <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Battle Master</span></strong> is also a viable pick as always, but I feel the Eldritch Knight makes better use of the Intelligence we're already invested in.</li> </ul><p><strong>Rogue</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">As a starting class</span></strong>: A lot of <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">skills</span></strong>, <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">expertise</span></strong>, dexterity saves, and Rapier proficiency out of the box. Decent HP, too. A bit fragile, so you may want to stay ranged until the core build kicks in. <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Better</span></strong> if your race starts you with Longbow proficiency.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">As a main class</span></strong>: Rogue is another fantastic main-class option. <span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>Cunning action</strong></span> provides an outlet for your bonus actions and vastly improves mobility. If you can set up sneak attacks on your reactions, it will make enemies really think twice before moving away from you. Supported by the right feats, Rogue can make for a freakishly sticky tank. <span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>Arcane Trickster</strong></span>, like Eldritch Knight, makes good use of our Intelligence. But <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Swashbuckler</span></strong> gives this class some well-needed stickiness.</li> </ul><p><strong>Paladin</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">As a starting class</span></strong>: Going Paladin is not easy. It takes an already MAD build and pushes it even further. The Paladin route is so MAD that only <strong><span style="color: #800080">basic humans</span></strong> can pull it off effectively, and I'm not entirely sure that's worth it. Starting Paladin does offer some pretty impressive benefits, though. Taking two levels of Paladin effectively replaces the Cleric level in the core of the build. In exchange, you gain fighter level <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">starting HP</span></strong>, all armor and weapon proficiencies, <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Wisdom saves</span></strong>, <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Divine Smite</span></strong>, a <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">fighting style</span></strong>...and that's just the first two levels.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>As a main class</strong></span>: For the purposes of this build, maining Paladin is just fighter-plus. Paladin gets massive burst damage potential from Divine Smite, and the <strong><span style="color: #daa520">Oath of Vengeance</span></strong> features turn you into a freakishly sticky tank that harshly punishes anything dumb enough to stand next to you. Your <strong><span style="color: #800080">spellcasting</span></strong> feature doesn't do much for you, but you still get <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Bless</span></strong> and <span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>Shield of Faith</strong></span>, and you can always use the extra slots for more smites. Honestly if the investment wasn't so huge, this would be the way to do the build, no question. But going Paladin means barely maxing AC, leaving no room for extra Constitution or Charisma, and losing out on the option of ever having any feats. It's a tough pill to swallow, but it's an impressive build on paper.</li> </ul><p>These are the only classes that I can recommend at the moment. Theoretically, you could fit this core into any class, but these are the ones where it feels like it really works. I'd be very interested to see how builds with other classes work, though.</p><p></p><p>[h=4]<strong>Feats</strong>[/h]</p><p>As previously mentioned, this build can benefit greatly from a few well-placed feats. Here I'll go over a few of the best options, and how to use them in the build. Choose carefully, many base classes have no room for feats, and even the Variant Human Fighter only gets a maximum of three (if it <strong><span style="color: #ff0000">never raises constitution</span></strong>).</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #40e0d0"><strong>Alert</strong></span> - This feat is actually borderline gold for this build. One of the biggest weaknesses of the build is getting caught before we can throw up Bladesong. Straight gold if the <strong><span style="color: #daa520">DM gets really murdery</span></strong> around munchkins.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Blade Mastery</span></strong> - Pairs well with the Rapier (usually the main weapon of the build). <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">+1 to hit</span></strong> is fantastic. The other two features kind of step on each others' toes. Crafty DMs will just move away if you <strong><span style="color: #800080">parrying stance</span></strong>, but the <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">advantage on opportunity attacks</span></strong> can be great. This feat is better for <span style="color: #daa520"><strong>Rogues </strong></span>that aren't <span style="color: #800080"><strong>Swashbucklers</strong></span>.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Defensive Duelist</strong></span> - Looks pretty impressive on paper. You don't get hit often, and when you do you can use this to potentially force a miss. Not as flexible as lucky, but also doesn't have a limit on the number of times it can be used. Unfortunately, the shield spell is usually just a better use of your reaction.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Dual Wielder</span></strong> - <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">+1 AC</span></strong> is +1 AC. Obviously gold if your concept has you <strong><span style="color: #daa520">dual wielding</span></strong>. </p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Lucky</span></strong> - Oh, you got a hit though? Try again. A great feat for any character, and this is no exception.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Mobile</span></strong> - More <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">speed</span></strong> is great, and <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Swashbuckler in a can</span></strong>! Obviously useless if you're <strong><span style="color: #ff0000">already a Swashbuckler</span></strong>.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Sentinel</span></strong> - Extra <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">stickiness</span></strong> is good. And you can <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">punish creatures for ignoring you</span></strong>. Practically <strong><span style="color: #daa520">gold</span></strong> if you have a hard time keeping enemy attention.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">War Caster</span></strong> - Advantage on <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">concentration saves</span></strong>, which you also have a bonus to from Bladesong. You basically never break concentration. Also allows you to use <strong><span style="color: #40e0d0">Booming Blade as an opportunity attack</span></strong>. Borderline gold for <strong><span style="color: #daa520">Dual Wielders</span></strong>.</p><p></p><p>[h=4]<strong>Sample Builds</strong>[/h]</p><p>[h=6]Human (Variant) Fighter[/h]</p><p>Race: Human (Variant)</p><p>Attributes</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Strength: 8</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dexterity: 16</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Constitution: 12</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Intelligence: 16</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wisdom: 13</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Charisma: 8</li> </ul><p>Class Progression Milestones</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fighter 1: 11 HP. Two Weapon Fighting, Dual Wielder Feat. 16-17 AC with two Rapiers (depending on armor).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cleric 1: 17 HP. Take Shield of Faith and Bless. 18-19 AC with shield of faith (hard to maintain, Bless is likely better at this level)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wizard 2: 27 HP. Booming Blade and Firebolt Cantrips. 22 AC with Mage Armor, Shield of Faith, Bladesong, and two rapiers.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fighter 3: 41 HP. Eldritch Knight Archetype.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fighter 4: 48 HP. +2 Dex. 23 AC.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fighter 6: 62 HP. +2 Dex. 24 AC. Two attacks.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fighter 8: 76 HP. War Caster Feat. War Magic. Booming Blade looking real good, can even use it on opportunity attacks.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fighter 12: 104 HP. +2 Int. 25 AC. Three attacks.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fighter 14: 118 HP. +2 Int. 26 AC. Third Level Spells (about time).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fighter 16: 151 HP. +2 Con.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fighter 17: 159 HP. Second Action Surge. Max Level. 26 AC without magic items.</li> </ul><p>This is the only version I have personally playtested and it's great. You actually get a lot of skills so your out-of-combat utility holds up just fine. Relatively low HP in the early levels isn't much of a problem since very little manages to hit you, it gets a bit more dangerous as enemies start hitting more and getting more clever. Booming Blade opportunity attacks are fantastic, letting you force an enemy to park next to you or pay a very heavy toll. Taking Con near the end might not be necessary, but with the kind of challenges you're likely to face at 19-20, it seems like a reasonable precaution.</p><p></p><p>[h=6]Half-elf Rogue[/h]</p><p>Race: Half-elf</p><p>Attributes</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Strength: 8</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dexterity: 16</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Constitution: 12</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Intelligence: 16</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wisdom: 13</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Charisma: 10</li> </ul><p>Class Progression Milestones</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rogue 1: 9 HP. Mostly for the extra skills, and as an excuse to pick up a Rapier. 15 AC is trash, though, so stay ranged for now.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wizard 2: 19 HP. Going wizard first because Mage Armor has more immediate benefits for the Rogue. 19 AC with Bladesong.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cleric 1: 25 HP. Picking up Bless and Shield of Faith. This puts our max AC up to 21. Also we've got 10 skills with 4 expertise, wow.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rogue 2: 31 HP. 3 HP less than the fighter at level 5. We finally get cunning action, so we can stick-and-move with the Rapier.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rogue 3: 37 HP. This is where the build comes alive, we take Swashbuckler and suddenly we're a 21 AC sticky rogue that can slap Booming Blade on one enemy, then tie up another.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rogue 4: 43 HP. +2 Dex. Bringing us up to 22 AC. Duel Wielder feat seems tempting as it still raises your AC, but it's only slightly more DPR than Booming Blade, and falls off later on. I prefer the utility of Booming Blade.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rogue 8: 67 HP. +2 Dex. 23 AC. This is where Booming Blade starts to destroy Dual Wielding for DPR.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rogue 10: 79 HP. +2 Int. 24 AC. Not much else to say about this level.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rogue 12: 91 HP. +2 Int. 25 AC. We've maxed our AC, now. Not quite as much as the fighter, but still a massive amount for a rogue.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rogue 16: 134 HP. +2 Con. Like with fighter we're going to pad our HP a bit for the last couple of levels just as a safety buffer.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rogue 17: 141 HP. Max Level. Master Duelist is a nice feature. It's like a slightly worse stroke of luck, which is the Rogues level 20 feature. It's almost as if we never even multi-classed.</li> </ul><p>I really like this one, as I said before Rogue is just as good for this build as fighter. Where the fighter ends up playing more like a frontline gish, this really feels more like a "tank". It forces catch-22s on enemies with booming blade, and can maneuver around the fight picking out targets to lock down. Enemies provoking opportunity attacks get punished very hard by sneak attack damage, but if they stay they get locked down by booming blade as you move on to the next poor sap. Rogue features also help a lot when it comes to dealing with casters thanks to Slippery Mind and Evasion. Even the HP problem can be mitigated by using Uncanny Dodge.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarkTechnomancer, post: 6903095, member: 6855764"] Hey, so usually I am a lurker around these forums, and I've read a lot of great stuff and gotten some fun ideas for builds from this community and others like it. Today I felt like giving back with a simple build that I have been playing around with that I've found to be a lot of fun. I've never written anything like this before, or even posted on these forums, so bear with me if this is a bit rough around the edges. [SIZE=5][SIZE=2][h=4][B]Concept[/B][/h] Originally this build started when I was trying to find out what the highest possible AC would be without using magic items. As such, the core concept of the build remains as attempting to optimize AC as [SIZE=2]much[/SIZE] as possible within a viable build. It turns out that the core of this build is fairly small and flexible, and as such this is likely to read more like a guide than a specific build. The playstyle of this build focuses on trying to pin down enemies, forcing them to either attack you and likely miss or take opportunity attacks. [/SIZE][/SIZE][h=4][B]Format[/B][/h][FONT=arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#333333][B]Occasionally I will use fancy colored text to indicate things that are important or how good an option is[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=arial][SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000][B]Red[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333] means don't do this. Usually to indicate something that seems good at a glance, but has some glaring problem that makes it terrible.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#800080][B]Purple[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333] means that it could be useful in certain situations, but that you're likely better picking another option. Only tolerate this if your higher concept falls apart without it.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][B]Black [/B]is not a fancy color. It doesn't mean much.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][B]Blue[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333] is good. Usually won't be build-defining, but will be used to indicate nice bonuses or good options.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]Sky Blue [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333]is great! I'll use this to indicate really good options for the build. You should have a pretty good reason to not take these.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#daa520][B]Gold[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333] is mandatory. These are options or features around which the entire build is defined or otherwise so good you'd be a fool to pass on them.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][SIZE=2][h=4][B]The Core[/B][/h] It probably comes as no surprise given the title of the thread that this build relies on the [COLOR=#daa520][B]Bladesinger Arcane Tradition[/B][/COLOR] and more specifically, [COLOR=#daa520][B]Bladesong[/B][/COLOR]. I did some searching and it comes as no surprise that I'm not the first to notice how strong the feature is for AC. [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?485301-The-Most-Annoying-Wizard-Ever-A-Bladesinger-Build"]Another thread[/URL] based on a similar concept has already been created, though that build focuses on maximizing the survivability of a pure wizard. The reason Bladesong is so powerful is because it adds a second ability modifier to AC without "setting" your AC like other similar abilities. This allows it to stack with things like [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]Mage Armor[/B][/COLOR], or even another classes [B][COLOR=#ff0000]Unarmored Defense[/COLOR][/B] feature. The third and final level of the core can be one of two options, and they each have their pros and cons. [B]Option 1)[/B] A third level of wizard. This lets us cast [COLOR=#0000ff][B]Blur[/B][/COLOR] forcing disadvantage on any enemies which rely on sight to attack. And gives us the ability to write second level spells into the spellbook. A solid option, but blurs limitations are not to be underestimated. Even lowly bats and giant spiders can ignore blur. I recommend this option only if you plan to make Wizard your main class, and even then, it may suit you to take the second option anyway. [B]Option 2)[/B] A level of cleric. [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Knowledge Domain Cleric[/COLOR][/B] is already a well known single-level dip for wizards. For this build it also provides a pair of great options for self-buffing survivability in [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]Shield of Faith[/B][/COLOR] and [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]Bless[/B][/COLOR]. Shield of Faith is not normally an especially impressive spell for clerics or paladins, but Bladesong's bonus to concentration saves makes it a more viable self-buff, cast as a bonus-action no less. Bless is of course known as THE combat buff, and for the Arcane juggernaut it can be used as an alternative against more save-heavy opponents or if [COLOR=#daa520][B]nobody else has bless[/B][/COLOR]. The downside is the 13 WIS requirement, which is hard on an already somewhat MAD build. Potentially worth the investment. [B]Option 3)[/B] Both. Depending on what you want your main class to be, you could always do both. Cleric 1/Wizard 3 is a fine core, and still light enough to get all the ASIs necessary you max your AC by level 20 no matter what your main class is. You'll be a little bit slower to catch up, but it does give you a lot of early versatility on which self buffs to use depending on the situation. [/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][SIZE=2][h=4][B]Attributes[/B][/h] [LIST] [*][B][COLOR=#ff0000]Strength[/COLOR][/B]: 8 - By necessity, this is a dex-based build. We have no use for Strength. [*][B][COLOR=#daa520]Dexterity[/COLOR][/B]: 16 - Our main attack stat and our primary source of hard AC. Max this. [*][B][COLOR=#0000ff]Constitution[/COLOR][/B]: 12-14 - HP is good, con saves are good, but unfortunately there is little room in the build to invest heavily in CON. Get it as high as you can afford. [*][B][COLOR=#daa520]Intelligence[/COLOR][/B]: 16 - Another major source of AC, we'll want to max this after Dex. [*][B][COLOR=#800080]Wisdom[/COLOR][/B]: 10-13 - We don't really want to dump this, because perception wisdom saves are good. But only go higher than 10 if you need to make the requirements for Cleric. [*][SIZE=5][SIZE=2][COLOR=#800080][B]Charisma[/B][/COLOR]: 8-13 - If you're not going Cleric, you have enough extra points for it without dumping Wisdom, and you want to take a Charisma-based class, go to 13. Otherwise, dump.[/SIZE][/SIZE] [/LIST] [/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][SIZE=2][h=4][B]Race Options[/B][/h] Due to the highly MAD nature of the build, and the requirement to get 16 in both Dex and Int, there aren't many options here, even fewer depending on the DM, so I'll start with the most obvious. [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]High Elf[/B][/COLOR]: This race (or Half-Elf) is [COLOR=#daa520][B]mandatory[/B][/COLOR] if your DM is picky about the Bladesinger Lore and chooses to enforce the elf-only restriction. With the Int requirements only the High Elf sub-race qualifies. The biggest benefits here are the [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]Fey Ancestry[/B][/COLOR] which helps make up for low Wisdom and [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Darkvision[/COLOR][/B]. The extra [COLOR=#0000ff][B]cantrip[/B][/COLOR] is nice, but mostly unnecessary. If your DM lets you pick the Eladrin variant you trade the cantrip and extra language for [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]Misty Step[/B][/COLOR] once per short rest, which is probably better. Weapon Proficiency is mostly made obsolete by Bladesinger, but Longbow can be nice if your [COLOR=#0000ff][B]class doesn't start with it[/B][/COLOR]. [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]Half Elf[/B][/COLOR]: The only other option for DMs enforcing the restriction. Not a bad choice at all, offering many of the same benefits as Elf. Fantastic [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]attribute bonuses[/B][/COLOR] (too bad it's Charisma and not Wisdom). As well as [COLOR=#0000ff][B]Extra Skills[/B][/COLOR] which are always welcome. One of only two options that can [COLOR=#800080][B]main-class Paladin[/B][/COLOR] but probably the worse option of the two. If playing a Variant, I recommend either Weapon Training (if your starting class is not proficient with Longbow) or the extra Cantrip. The extra walk speed could also be good (45' movement is no joke). [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]Human (Variant)[/B][/COLOR]: There are a lot of feats which can benefit this build significantly, which I will cover further down. As with almost any build, variant human is a viable option. [B][COLOR=#800080]Human[/COLOR][/B]: This may seem like an odd one to mention, since regular humans are legendary in their lameness. However, it's the only viable option if you want to [COLOR=#daa520][B]main-class Paladin[/B][/COLOR]. I don't know if that is worth it. But there it is. [COLOR=#0000ff][B]Forest Gnome[/B][/COLOR]: It's got the stats and not much else. [COLOR=#0000ff][B]Minor Illusion[/B][/COLOR] is alright, but doesn't do a lot for the build. [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Gnome Cunning[/COLOR][/B] is as good as Fey Ancestry most of the time, and sometimes even better. [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Darkvision [/COLOR][/B]is always appreciated. [COLOR=#0000ff][B]Deep Gnome[/B][/COLOR]: Mostly the same as forest gnome, though they trade Minor Illusion for [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Super Darkvision[/COLOR][/B]. [COLOR=#800080][B]Stone Camouflage[/B][/COLOR] is better if you [B][COLOR=#0000ff]main Rogue[/COLOR][/B]. [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Tiefling (Feral)[/COLOR][/B]: A pretty interesting choice, mostly vanilla, though as always [COLOR=#0000ff][B]Darkvision[/B][/COLOR] is nice. [B][COLOR=#ff0000]Infernal Legacy[/COLOR][/B] is useless without Charisma, so I recommend the Winged Variant, which gives [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]30' Fly speed[/COLOR][/B] (make sure you get Feather Fall!). Unfortunately I don't think the fly speed is affected by Bladesong. [COLOR=#ff0000][B]All other races[/B][/COLOR]: As of writing this, no other races meet the int/dex requirements, and as such are not viable options for this build. [/SIZE][/SIZE][h=4][B]Starting and Main Classes[/B][/h] So far I've mentioned starting class and main class several times. Since the core of this build is so small, it is very flexible in terms of what kind of character you want to build around it. I'm not going to go in-depth on every class, but I will mention each of the viable options and briefly discuss their benefits. I'll start with the core classes, then move into some recommended classes. Starting in a non-core class delays when your build gets "online" but can offer some significant benefits. [B]Wizard[/B] [LIST] [*][COLOR=#800080][B]As a starting class[/B][/COLOR]: Not much to this. Wizard doesn't really give you anything for starting in it that you wouldn't get from cross-classing. If you intend to have other classes at all, it's probably better to start in them instead. Of course, if you do start wizard, you'll get your Bladesong that much faster. [*][B]As a main class[/B]: As mentioned in [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?485301-The-Most-Annoying-Wizard-Ever-A-Bladesinger-Build"]Lillika's Bladesinger thread[/URL] being a full caster with massive AC can be a real headache for bloodthirsty DMs. Unfortunately, burning your concentration on Blur, Bless, or Shield of Faith somewhat limits your utility as a caster, you could always sacrifice your defense for more flexible spellcasting, but at that point you're pretty much just a regular wizard. Wizard also ends up with pretty low HP, though you can make up for that somewhat with the Song of Defense feature from Bladesinger. It's not a bad option, but I think that there are other classes that suit the build better. [/LIST] [B]Cleric[/B] [LIST] [*][B][COLOR=#0000ff]As a starting class[/COLOR][/B]: This is a pretty good one to start in. [COLOR=#0000ff][B]Medium armor and shields[/B][/COLOR] can tide you over until your Bladesinger features kick in. Combined with Shield of Faith, you can reasonably expect [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]20 AC at level 1[/B][/COLOR]. [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Wisdom save[/COLOR][/B] proficiency is not bad either. Weaponry is a bit awkward. You'll pretty much be stuck with daggers unless you got Shortsword proficiency from a racial trait. [*][COLOR=#ff0000][B]As a main class[/B][/COLOR]: Not much here, unfortunately. We can't really afford to invest heavily in Wisdom, and as a caster the Cleric is fairly light on features. You just sort of end up being a bad cleric that never dies. [/LIST] [B]Fighter[/B] [LIST] [*][COLOR=#40e0d0][B]As a starting class[/B][/COLOR]: This is a fantastic class to start in. Like cleric the [B][COLOR=#0000ff]armor and shield[/COLOR][/B] proficiency can keep your defenses competitive until your core classes kick in. Proficiency with [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]every weapon [/COLOR][/B]means not having to fret over carrying around a useless Rapier for a few levels, you can start with it and use it right away. [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Con saves[/COLOR][/B] are the best, especially for a class that relies on concentration buffs. [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Fighting Style[/COLOR][/B] and [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Second wind[/COLOR][/B] at level 1 are fantastic. And on top of it all, the best [B][COLOR=#0000ff]starting HP[/COLOR][/B] (we're never going to be barbarian with this build). [*][COLOR=#40e0d0][B]As a main class[/B][/COLOR]: Supporting the Fighter start even further is the fact that is is also a spectacular main class. Great features in [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]Action Surge[/B][/COLOR], [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Extra Attacks[/COLOR][/B], and [B][COLOR=#daa520]extra ASIs[/COLOR][/B] help manage the MADness of the class and support the build with extra feats (which no other class can afford). [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Eldritch Knight[/COLOR][/B] is an obvious match, not only for the flavor, but because the [B][COLOR=#0000ff]War Magic[/COLOR][/B] feature helps fill some DPR gaps in the mid levels. [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Battle Master[/COLOR][/B] is also a viable pick as always, but I feel the Eldritch Knight makes better use of the Intelligence we're already invested in. [/LIST] [B]Rogue[/B] [LIST] [*][B][COLOR=#0000ff]As a starting class[/COLOR][/B]: A lot of [B][COLOR=#0000ff]skills[/COLOR][/B], [B][COLOR=#0000ff]expertise[/COLOR][/B], dexterity saves, and Rapier proficiency out of the box. Decent HP, too. A bit fragile, so you may want to stay ranged until the core build kicks in. [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Better[/COLOR][/B] if your race starts you with Longbow proficiency. [*][B][COLOR=#40e0d0]As a main class[/COLOR][/B]: Rogue is another fantastic main-class option. [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]Cunning action[/B][/COLOR] provides an outlet for your bonus actions and vastly improves mobility. If you can set up sneak attacks on your reactions, it will make enemies really think twice before moving away from you. Supported by the right feats, Rogue can make for a freakishly sticky tank. [COLOR=#0000ff][B]Arcane Trickster[/B][/COLOR], like Eldritch Knight, makes good use of our Intelligence. But [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Swashbuckler[/COLOR][/B] gives this class some well-needed stickiness. [/LIST] [B]Paladin[/B] [LIST] [*][B][COLOR=#40e0d0]As a starting class[/COLOR][/B]: Going Paladin is not easy. It takes an already MAD build and pushes it even further. The Paladin route is so MAD that only [B][COLOR=#800080]basic humans[/COLOR][/B] can pull it off effectively, and I'm not entirely sure that's worth it. Starting Paladin does offer some pretty impressive benefits, though. Taking two levels of Paladin effectively replaces the Cleric level in the core of the build. In exchange, you gain fighter level [B][COLOR=#0000ff]starting HP[/COLOR][/B], all armor and weapon proficiencies, [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Wisdom saves[/COLOR][/B], [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Divine Smite[/COLOR][/B], a [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]fighting style[/COLOR][/B]...and that's just the first two levels. [*][COLOR=#40e0d0][B]As a main class[/B][/COLOR]: For the purposes of this build, maining Paladin is just fighter-plus. Paladin gets massive burst damage potential from Divine Smite, and the [B][COLOR=#daa520]Oath of Vengeance[/COLOR][/B] features turn you into a freakishly sticky tank that harshly punishes anything dumb enough to stand next to you. Your [B][COLOR=#800080]spellcasting[/COLOR][/B] feature doesn't do much for you, but you still get [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Bless[/COLOR][/B] and [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]Shield of Faith[/B][/COLOR], and you can always use the extra slots for more smites. Honestly if the investment wasn't so huge, this would be the way to do the build, no question. But going Paladin means barely maxing AC, leaving no room for extra Constitution or Charisma, and losing out on the option of ever having any feats. It's a tough pill to swallow, but it's an impressive build on paper. [/LIST] These are the only classes that I can recommend at the moment. Theoretically, you could fit this core into any class, but these are the ones where it feels like it really works. I'd be very interested to see how builds with other classes work, though. [h=4][B]Feats[/B][/h] As previously mentioned, this build can benefit greatly from a few well-placed feats. Here I'll go over a few of the best options, and how to use them in the build. Choose carefully, many base classes have no room for feats, and even the Variant Human Fighter only gets a maximum of three (if it [B][COLOR=#ff0000]never raises constitution[/COLOR][/B]). [COLOR=#40e0d0][B]Alert[/B][/COLOR] - This feat is actually borderline gold for this build. One of the biggest weaknesses of the build is getting caught before we can throw up Bladesong. Straight gold if the [B][COLOR=#daa520]DM gets really murdery[/COLOR][/B] around munchkins. [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Blade Mastery[/COLOR][/B] - Pairs well with the Rapier (usually the main weapon of the build). [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]+1 to hit[/COLOR][/B] is fantastic. The other two features kind of step on each others' toes. Crafty DMs will just move away if you [B][COLOR=#800080]parrying stance[/COLOR][/B], but the [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]advantage on opportunity attacks[/COLOR][/B] can be great. This feat is better for [COLOR=#daa520][B]Rogues [/B][/COLOR]that aren't [COLOR=#800080][B]Swashbucklers[/B][/COLOR]. [COLOR=#ff0000][B]Defensive Duelist[/B][/COLOR] - Looks pretty impressive on paper. You don't get hit often, and when you do you can use this to potentially force a miss. Not as flexible as lucky, but also doesn't have a limit on the number of times it can be used. Unfortunately, the shield spell is usually just a better use of your reaction. [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Dual Wielder[/COLOR][/B] - [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]+1 AC[/COLOR][/B] is +1 AC. Obviously gold if your concept has you [B][COLOR=#daa520]dual wielding[/COLOR][/B]. [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Lucky[/COLOR][/B] - Oh, you got a hit though? Try again. A great feat for any character, and this is no exception. [B][COLOR=#0000ff]Mobile[/COLOR][/B] - More [B][COLOR=#0000ff]speed[/COLOR][/B] is great, and [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Swashbuckler in a can[/COLOR][/B]! Obviously useless if you're [B][COLOR=#ff0000]already a Swashbuckler[/COLOR][/B]. [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Sentinel[/COLOR][/B] - Extra [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]stickiness[/COLOR][/B] is good. And you can [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]punish creatures for ignoring you[/COLOR][/B]. Practically [B][COLOR=#daa520]gold[/COLOR][/B] if you have a hard time keeping enemy attention. [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]War Caster[/COLOR][/B] - Advantage on [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]concentration saves[/COLOR][/B], which you also have a bonus to from Bladesong. You basically never break concentration. Also allows you to use [B][COLOR=#40e0d0]Booming Blade as an opportunity attack[/COLOR][/B]. Borderline gold for [B][COLOR=#daa520]Dual Wielders[/COLOR][/B]. [h=4][B]Sample Builds[/B][/h] [h=6]Human (Variant) Fighter[/h] Race: Human (Variant) Attributes [LIST] [*]Strength: 8 [*]Dexterity: 16 [*]Constitution: 12 [*]Intelligence: 16 [*]Wisdom: 13 [*]Charisma: 8 [/LIST] Class Progression Milestones [LIST] [*]Fighter 1: 11 HP. Two Weapon Fighting, Dual Wielder Feat. 16-17 AC with two Rapiers (depending on armor). [*]Cleric 1: 17 HP. Take Shield of Faith and Bless. 18-19 AC with shield of faith (hard to maintain, Bless is likely better at this level) [*]Wizard 2: 27 HP. Booming Blade and Firebolt Cantrips. 22 AC with Mage Armor, Shield of Faith, Bladesong, and two rapiers. [*]Fighter 3: 41 HP. Eldritch Knight Archetype. [*]Fighter 4: 48 HP. +2 Dex. 23 AC. [*]Fighter 6: 62 HP. +2 Dex. 24 AC. Two attacks. [*]Fighter 8: 76 HP. War Caster Feat. War Magic. Booming Blade looking real good, can even use it on opportunity attacks. [*]Fighter 12: 104 HP. +2 Int. 25 AC. Three attacks. [*]Fighter 14: 118 HP. +2 Int. 26 AC. Third Level Spells (about time). [*]Fighter 16: 151 HP. +2 Con. [*]Fighter 17: 159 HP. Second Action Surge. Max Level. 26 AC without magic items. [/LIST] This is the only version I have personally playtested and it's great. You actually get a lot of skills so your out-of-combat utility holds up just fine. Relatively low HP in the early levels isn't much of a problem since very little manages to hit you, it gets a bit more dangerous as enemies start hitting more and getting more clever. Booming Blade opportunity attacks are fantastic, letting you force an enemy to park next to you or pay a very heavy toll. Taking Con near the end might not be necessary, but with the kind of challenges you're likely to face at 19-20, it seems like a reasonable precaution. [h=6]Half-elf Rogue[/h] Race: Half-elf Attributes [LIST] [*]Strength: 8 [*]Dexterity: 16 [*]Constitution: 12 [*]Intelligence: 16 [*]Wisdom: 13 [*]Charisma: 10 [/LIST] Class Progression Milestones [LIST] [*]Rogue 1: 9 HP. Mostly for the extra skills, and as an excuse to pick up a Rapier. 15 AC is trash, though, so stay ranged for now. [*]Wizard 2: 19 HP. Going wizard first because Mage Armor has more immediate benefits for the Rogue. 19 AC with Bladesong. [*]Cleric 1: 25 HP. Picking up Bless and Shield of Faith. This puts our max AC up to 21. Also we've got 10 skills with 4 expertise, wow. [*]Rogue 2: 31 HP. 3 HP less than the fighter at level 5. We finally get cunning action, so we can stick-and-move with the Rapier. [*]Rogue 3: 37 HP. This is where the build comes alive, we take Swashbuckler and suddenly we're a 21 AC sticky rogue that can slap Booming Blade on one enemy, then tie up another. [*]Rogue 4: 43 HP. +2 Dex. Bringing us up to 22 AC. Duel Wielder feat seems tempting as it still raises your AC, but it's only slightly more DPR than Booming Blade, and falls off later on. I prefer the utility of Booming Blade. [*]Rogue 8: 67 HP. +2 Dex. 23 AC. This is where Booming Blade starts to destroy Dual Wielding for DPR. [*]Rogue 10: 79 HP. +2 Int. 24 AC. Not much else to say about this level. [*]Rogue 12: 91 HP. +2 Int. 25 AC. We've maxed our AC, now. Not quite as much as the fighter, but still a massive amount for a rogue. [*]Rogue 16: 134 HP. +2 Con. Like with fighter we're going to pad our HP a bit for the last couple of levels just as a safety buffer. [*]Rogue 17: 141 HP. Max Level. Master Duelist is a nice feature. It's like a slightly worse stroke of luck, which is the Rogues level 20 feature. It's almost as if we never even multi-classed. [/LIST] I really like this one, as I said before Rogue is just as good for this build as fighter. Where the fighter ends up playing more like a frontline gish, this really feels more like a "tank". It forces catch-22s on enemies with booming blade, and can maneuver around the fight picking out targets to lock down. Enemies provoking opportunity attacks get punished very hard by sneak attack damage, but if they stay they get locked down by booming blade as you move on to the next poor sap. Rogue features also help a lot when it comes to dealing with casters thanks to Slippery Mind and Evasion. Even the HP problem can be mitigated by using Uncanny Dodge. [/QUOTE]
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