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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6361124" data-attributes="member: 2011">To tell you the truth, I was guilty of that. We run 8 hour gaming sessions, so I had to read (and re-read) fairly far into the adventure to make sure that I had a general understanding of it and knew it well enough for how far the players would get within 8 hours. So, I was not as focused on just the first battle and dungeon, but rather a lot more (about half of the module because players can decide to skip some things).During setup, I usually do not read that much of the encounter because I have already read it. I tend to just put monsters in reasonable locations and move on. It seems a bit idiotic for 2 goblins to come out and melee against 5 PCs (the default) anyway.So to me, bushes are moderate foliage which is a lightly obscured area (which results in disadvantage on perception checks, even though I did not do that in game).Even if a DM considers bushes and trees to be light foliage, I still think that goblins can hide behind bushes and trees.On the other hand, we had 6 PCs and for the first encounter, I did not throw in an extra goblin. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />By the way, I do have an issue with Passive Perception in this type of scenario (where they hide at first). More or less, nearly everyone sees them or nobody sees them based on monster type. I do not have a solution for it (rolling perception means that someone in the group will see them nearly every time).</blockquote>

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