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<blockquote data-quote="smbakeresq" data-source="post: 6964222" data-attributes="member: 28301"><p>I don't think it does. The two weapon fighting rule specifically says "you can use a bonus action to attack with a different light melee weapon that you’re holding in the other hand." The dual wielder feat text takes out the light melee weapon condition, but the rest of the rule states to attack with a weapon you are holding in the other hand. To me that means you can only use the bonus action to attack with that weapon. Also, shove takes your attack action, shove states "using the attack action", so you cant use it using a bonus action at all. </p><p></p><p>The shove for one of your attacks can only occur during the attack action, unless you have that feat. Its not just a free substitution everywhere. </p><p></p><p>The idea then is to use the Shield master feat to use the bonus to shove (most of the time to prone) or to attack if the target is already prone. </p><p></p><p>Plus, its a neat character build, not optimized, but its better to play whats interesting instead of a mathematical construct which many builds are.</p><p></p><p></p><p>A little secret when I DM, the power gamer is never inspiring so gets little inspiration, the RP gamer who plays the fun build gets it all the time just be being his character.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smbakeresq, post: 6964222, member: 28301"] I don't think it does. The two weapon fighting rule specifically says "you can use a bonus action to attack with a different light melee weapon that you’re holding in the other hand." The dual wielder feat text takes out the light melee weapon condition, but the rest of the rule states to attack with a weapon you are holding in the other hand. To me that means you can only use the bonus action to attack with that weapon. Also, shove takes your attack action, shove states "using the attack action", so you cant use it using a bonus action at all. The shove for one of your attacks can only occur during the attack action, unless you have that feat. Its not just a free substitution everywhere. The idea then is to use the Shield master feat to use the bonus to shove (most of the time to prone) or to attack if the target is already prone. Plus, its a neat character build, not optimized, but its better to play whats interesting instead of a mathematical construct which many builds are. A little secret when I DM, the power gamer is never inspiring so gets little inspiration, the RP gamer who plays the fun build gets it all the time just be being his character. [/QUOTE]
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