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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8649248" data-attributes="member: 6801845">That's why we have DMs who can adjust plans if they really want and creative players that think of solutions the DM did not.&nbsp; Or they just fail.&nbsp; Sometimes failure happens, and yeah, it can suck.&nbsp; It can also lead to even more interesting consequences as now you have a nemesis that you should have caught.&nbsp; Maybe you're forced to try to claw back something you lost, whether that's reputation or a city that was lost to the horde.Sometimes nothing happens on a failure.&nbsp; You just fail and don't make any progress or lose progress.&nbsp; I thought it was clear.&nbsp; Nothing happening is not the only option.&nbsp; Not sure why you're ignoring our responses.It may be boring for you.&nbsp; But it does change the situation, Plan A didn't work you have to go to Plan B.&nbsp; Or maybe you just have to accept defeat.&nbsp; If you never have &quot;oh crap we utterly failed&quot; moments, the &quot;awesome it worked!&quot; moments mean less.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8649248, member: 6801845"] That's why we have DMs who can adjust plans if they really want and creative players that think of solutions the DM did not. Or they just fail. Sometimes failure happens, and yeah, it can suck. It can also lead to even more interesting consequences as now you have a nemesis that you [I]should [/I]have caught. Maybe you're forced to try to claw back something you lost, whether that's reputation or a city that was lost to the horde. Sometimes nothing happens on a failure. You just fail and don't make any progress or lose progress. I thought it was clear. Nothing happening is not the only option. Not sure why you're ignoring our responses. It may be boring for you. But it does change the situation, Plan A didn't work you have to go to Plan B. Or maybe you just have to accept defeat. If you never have "oh crap we utterly failed" moments, the "awesome it worked!" moments mean less. [/QUOTE]

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