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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8651856" data-attributes="member: 6801845">My lunch break is almost over (I really need to find a husbands union rep).&nbsp; I will say that when I mistakenly tried to have a conversation on the other thread about D&amp;D being gamist, I gave up once I realized that the definitions were all over the place.&nbsp; That you had to read a book in order to understand it.So with that in mind if I spend a few minutes later looking at, <a href="https://gnomestew.com/a-love-letter-to-success-with-complications/" target="_blank">this article </a>for example, will it tell me what I need to know?&nbsp; Because these things seem like catch-22s.&nbsp; I explain that I don't have opportunity to play other games but then people complain and say game X does it better then I ask for why they believe that or can they give me examples which leads to people just telling me I should play the other games I don't have opportunity to play.&nbsp; Then one of the moderators steps in and tells me to not bother asking these kind of questions ... so yeah.&nbsp; I get a bit frustrated.&nbsp; I guarantee there are many people out there who for one reason or another only play D&amp;D.&nbsp; If you think there is a better option, why is it so difficult to simply try to explain how those other options work?P.S. The success/consequence/failure thing is interesting but this originally came up because of a discussion about how to set target numbers.&nbsp; My original question was how do you set those target numbers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8651856, member: 6801845"] My lunch break is almost over (I really need to find a husbands union rep). I will say that when I mistakenly tried to have a conversation on the other thread about D&D being gamist, I gave up once I realized that the definitions were all over the place. That you had to read a book in order to understand it. So with that in mind if I spend a few minutes later looking at, [URL='https://gnomestew.com/a-love-letter-to-success-with-complications/']this article [/URL]for example, will it tell me what I need to know? Because these things seem like catch-22s. I explain that I don't have opportunity to play other games but then people complain and say game X does it better then I ask for why they believe that or can they give me examples which leads to people just telling me I should play the other games I don't have opportunity to play. Then one of the moderators steps in and tells me to not bother asking these kind of questions ... so yeah. I get a bit frustrated. I guarantee there are many people out there who for one reason or another only play D&D. If you think there is a better option, why is it so difficult to simply try to explain how those other options work? P.S. The success/consequence/failure thing is interesting but this originally came up because of a discussion about how to set target numbers. My original question was how do you set those target numbers. [/QUOTE]

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