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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 9047629" data-attributes="member: 57383">Okay, let's get started.The 5E Balor is a Challenge 19 fiery manlike melee and spell opponent, so using it as a comparison seemed appropriate.I'm fine with making the Efreeti Noble a Huge elemental, since the 2E Efreeti Noble was 15 feet tall and (going by the picture at least) ridiculously wide. He's built like a dwarven bodybuilder!<table style='width: 100%'><tr><th>Creature</th><th>1E AD&D</th><th>2E AD&D</th></tr><tr><td>Efreeti</td><td>10 HD, AC 2, D 3d8</td><td>10 HD, AC 2, D 3d8</td></tr><tr><td>Noble Efreeti</td><td></td><td>13 HD, AC –1, D 2×4d8</td></tr><tr><td>Pasha o/t Efreet</td><td>101 hp, AC –3, D 2×2d10</td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Balor</td><td>8+8 HD, AC –2, D 1d12+1 plus 2 to 4d6</td><td>13 HD, AC –8, D 1d12+1d4+4d6</td></tr></table>Wasn't 100% sure about the AC 19, since 5E Armour Classes are a lot "flatter" than in AD&D, plus the AD&D Noble Efreet's AC is a lot worse than a 2E Balor. Then again, the 2E <s>Demons</s> Tanar'ri have greatly magnified ACs. A 1E Balor has AC –2, just between the AC –1 of a regular Noble Efreeti and the –3 of the high-ranking Pashas.So I'm fine "greening" the AC.The Hit Dice I'm not so sure about, since 290 hp is a bit more than a Balor and AD&D Noble Efreet and Balor Demons both had identical Hit Dice and hit point range.Hmm… maybe give them one of the following:Hit Points #2 270 (20d12 + 140) [with CON (+7)] Hit Points #3 261 (18d12 + 144) [with CON (+8)]Hmm… although we'll probably want to give it piles of HP to protect it from those pesky PCs, so maybe the current 290 (20d12 + 160) or even 304 (21d12 + 168) would be better?I'm thinking we may want to leave that redded out until we've got a clearer idea of its offensive CR. That'll tell us what sort of Defensive CR we should aim for.Finally, we've got Speed, which is currently 40 ft., fly 60 ft. like a standard Efreeti.The 2E AD&D Noble Efreeti was faster than its inferiors (12/fly 30 versus the 9/fly 24 of an Efreet. A Balor is 15/fly 36 by the way). The Pasha of the Efreet has the same fly speed as a common 1E Efreet but can run at 24, which is as fast as a horse!).So I could see us increasing the Speed a bit if you think that'd be fun. Maybe make the land speed 50 ft. or 60 ft. and/or increase the flight speed to fly 70 ft. or fly 80 ft.?I'm leaning towards Speed #2 40 ft., fly 80 ft. but am open to alternatives and would be OK keeping the current Speed.</blockquote>

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