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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 9047784" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Well Dao Nobles are roughly as powerful as Efreet Nobles, so will likely be the same CR or pretty close to it.</p><p></p><p>Oh, as for the Noble's <em><strong>Wish Granting</strong></em>, can't we can repurpose the wording set out in the <em>Monster Manual</em> under Variant Genie powers?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, that would be something like:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em><strong>Wish Granting (<span style="color: red">or Grant Wishes?</span>).</strong></em> The <span style="color: green">efreeti noble</span> can grant <span style="color: red">three</span> wishes to a creature that isn't a genie. Once a genie has granted its limit of wishes, it can't grant wishes again for <span style="color: red">1 year</span>), and cosmic law dictates that the same genie can expend its limit of wishes on a specific creature only once in that creature's existence.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> To be granted a wish, a creature within 60 feet of the <span style="color: green">efreeti noble</span> states a desired effect to it. The genie can then cast the <em>wish</em> spell on the creature's behalf to bring about the effect. The <span style="color: green">genie</span> might try to pervert the intent of the wish by exploiting the wish's poor wording. The perversion of the wording is usually crafted to be to the genie's benefit.</p><p></p><p>Note that the original AD&D Efreeti Nobles could grant wishes to Prime Material Plane creatures three times per day, while the original 1E Pasha of the Efreet could grant wishes at-will. That's quite a bit better than three times a year!</p><p></p><p>Now does the 5E Monster Manual wording mean a noble genie must give its "limit of wishes" to the same creature and cannot split them up? As written, it suggest the genie can't grant three creatures a wish apiece, or one creature a single wish and a second a pair of wishes.</p><p></p><p>The 2E AD&D Efreeti Noble is able to grant wishes as it likes, since its Combat entry says it can perform "spell-like functions three times per day: grant <em>wishes</em> to creatures from the Prime Material Plane."</p><p></p><p>How about:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em><strong>Wish Granting (<span style="color: red">or Grant Wishes?</span>) #2.</strong></em> The <span style="color: green">efreeti noble</span> can grant wishes to a creature that isn't a genie. Once the genie has granted its limit of <span style="color: red">three</span> wishes, it can't grant wishes again for <span style="color: red">1 year</span>), and cosmic law dictates that the same genie can expend its limit of wishes on a specific creature only once in that creature's existence.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> To be granted a wish, a creature within 60 feet of the <span style="color: green">efreeti noble</span> states a desired effect to it. The genie can then cast the <em>wish</em> spell on the creature's behalf to bring about the effect. An <span style="color: red">efreeti noble will</span> try to pervert the intent of <span style="color: red">a</span> wish by exploiting the wish's poor wording. The perversion of the wording is usually crafted to be to the genie's benefit.</p><p></p><p>I like that better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 9047784, member: 57383"] Well Dao Nobles are roughly as powerful as Efreet Nobles, so will likely be the same CR or pretty close to it. Oh, as for the Noble's [I][B]Wish Granting[/B][/I], can't we can repurpose the wording set out in the [I]Monster Manual[/I] under Variant Genie powers? So, that would be something like: [INDENT][I][B]Wish Granting ([COLOR=red]or Grant Wishes?[/COLOR]).[/B][/I] The [COLOR=green]efreeti noble[/COLOR] can grant [COLOR=red]three[/COLOR] wishes to a creature that isn't a genie. Once a genie has granted its limit of wishes, it can't grant wishes again for [COLOR=red]1 year[/COLOR]), and cosmic law dictates that the same genie can expend its limit of wishes on a specific creature only once in that creature's existence.[/INDENT] [INDENT] To be granted a wish, a creature within 60 feet of the [COLOR=green]efreeti noble[/COLOR] states a desired effect to it. The genie can then cast the [I]wish[/I] spell on the creature's behalf to bring about the effect. The [COLOR=green]genie[/COLOR] might try to pervert the intent of the wish by exploiting the wish's poor wording. The perversion of the wording is usually crafted to be to the genie's benefit.[/INDENT] Note that the original AD&D Efreeti Nobles could grant wishes to Prime Material Plane creatures three times per day, while the original 1E Pasha of the Efreet could grant wishes at-will. That's quite a bit better than three times a year! Now does the 5E Monster Manual wording mean a noble genie must give its "limit of wishes" to the same creature and cannot split them up? As written, it suggest the genie can't grant three creatures a wish apiece, or one creature a single wish and a second a pair of wishes. The 2E AD&D Efreeti Noble is able to grant wishes as it likes, since its Combat entry says it can perform "spell-like functions three times per day: grant [i]wishes[/i] to creatures from the Prime Material Plane." How about: [INDENT][I][B]Wish Granting ([COLOR=red]or Grant Wishes?[/COLOR]) #2.[/B][/I] The [COLOR=green]efreeti noble[/COLOR] can grant wishes to a creature that isn't a genie. Once the genie has granted its limit of [COLOR=red]three[/COLOR] wishes, it can't grant wishes again for [COLOR=red]1 year[/COLOR]), and cosmic law dictates that the same genie can expend its limit of wishes on a specific creature only once in that creature's existence.[/INDENT] [INDENT] To be granted a wish, a creature within 60 feet of the [COLOR=green]efreeti noble[/COLOR] states a desired effect to it. The genie can then cast the [I]wish[/I] spell on the creature's behalf to bring about the effect. An [COLOR=red]efreeti noble will[/COLOR] try to pervert the intent of [COLOR=red]a[/COLOR] wish by exploiting the wish's poor wording. The perversion of the wording is usually crafted to be to the genie's benefit.[/INDENT] I like that better. [/QUOTE]
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