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Message: <blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8513422" data-attributes="member: 71699">On the meaning of "meaningful", I wondered if one should say it's "something that matters to fictional positioning"? Against that, another poster made the point that not everything matters to fictional positioning** (in any game). Hence I see the rule as - do this wherever or as well as possible.Another thought rattling around is the difference between kinds of rules available in the game. There's a gradient from<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">player says what character does, DM says what rules apply, to</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">player says what character does and what rule applies (sometimes through plain invokes, and other times through inevitability*)</li> </ul>Thinking in that direction, one can say that some things players say next are going to be validated by the presence of a matching rule. 5e spells are a strong example of this, as were 4e powers.* That is, the rule that would always be judged applicable by "Jo DM" who knows all the rules, and the community practice and principles, and has nothing at stake.** Or one resists the urge to say that there is anything that can't matter to fictional positioning, given the vastness of, and ambiguities in defining, what is in that set.</blockquote>