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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9540912">I guess I'm an outlier then when it comes to TSR-era. We never allowed max hp to start with, or average instead of rolling. The rule was you rolled, so you rolled. Period. I never met anyone who did anything except rolling until 2E came out in the 90s... I think that was the first time I ever heard of anything like this.When I first picked up 5E and saw the max at 1st level and round-up average thereafter, I was a bit stunned. Like, ok, sure, let's just make things that much easier. 5E default rule is round down, but HP? Nah, we'll round them up...  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />Now, players (and DMs) have features and features and feature of "stuff to do" in 5E. Old-school play didn't offer those. You had to think outside of the box on what you want to do and how you can do it (with resolution as simple or as complex as you want to have). It was a lot of DM fiat, which a know many people seem to not like, but I don't remember it ever being a problem back then. If it was, and you had a dick or killer DM, people stopped playing with them.It is like watching older movies. Compared to standards now, the quality was low (video and audio), the effects were sad often (laughable today), even the acting was "over the top" regularly, etc. So, you try to show a movie from the late 70s or early 80s to a young adult born after 2000 and it is a hard sell at best. Those movies were great then, and if you feel in love with them then you sill love them for what they were, but yeah getting someone who never watched Star Wars (A New Hope) to sit through it compared to Guardians of the Galaxy... good luck. If they like the new Star Wars movies, they might "appreciate" A New Hope, but few IME will love or embrace it as much as we did then.</blockquote>

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