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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 9541344" data-attributes="member: 86653">The trouble is that there's a lot of people who were actually playing back-in-the-day active now on this site. And when most of them say, &quot;Yeah, that's not new, we've been playing exactly that way since the late 70s or early 80s&quot; it should give people pause on this whole &quot;No, it's a completely unique and new phenomenon&quot; take.Unfortunately, it doesn't.Like with the &quot;completely new and modern&quot; notion of West Marches games.If you read the DMG and a few of Gary's notes on running games, you'll see that exact style of play was assumed to be the default mode of play in the early days. It's how both Dave and Gary ran things for large stretches of time. There might be a few tweaks to the set up, but it's almost identical to a very old style of play.Same with the &quot;utterly new OSR&quot; style of play. It's as old as the hobby. Yes, the OSR movement is new. No, the OSR style of play is not.That's how many people here have always played the game, and how many others used to play the game.Yes, it's almost like game design has evolved in the last 50 years.Yeah, exactly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 9541344, member: 86653"] The trouble is that there's a lot of people who were actually playing back-in-the-day active now on this site. And when most of them say, "Yeah, that's not new, we've been playing exactly that way since the late 70s or early 80s" it should give people pause on this whole "No, it's a completely unique and new phenomenon" take. Unfortunately, it doesn't. Like with the "completely new and modern" notion of West Marches games. If you read the DMG and a few of Gary's notes on running games, you'll see that exact style of play was assumed to be the default mode of play in the early days. It's how both Dave and Gary ran things for large stretches of time. There might be a few tweaks to the set up, but it's almost identical to a very old style of play. Same with the "utterly new OSR" style of play. It's as old as the hobby. Yes, the OSR [I]movement[/I] is new. No, the OSR [I]style of play[/I] is not. That's how many people here have always played the game, and how many others used to play the game. Yes, it's almost like game design has evolved in the last 50 years. Yeah, exactly. [/QUOTE]

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