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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9541981" data-attributes="member: 42582">I don't agree with this at all. OSR, at least as I see it (which is as an observer, not a participant) is about skilled play of the sort Gygax advocated in his PHB, but with a tighter system -often inspired by Moldvay's, which is tighter than Gygax's, but also drawing on the 40 subsequent years of technical developments in RPG design.The notions of &quot;purity&quot; and &quot;goodness&quot; are not apposite. I mean, one might come across a snide remark here and there about DL and its aftermath, but those are peripheral, not essential, to the actual RPGing that the OSR is aiming at.There is a reason, though, for a focus on a certain &quot;sliver of time&quot; - that's the time in which systems aimed at skilled play were published. So it makes sense, if one wishes to engage in that sort of play, to attend to those texts. You are not going to learn anything useful about skilled play by reading (just to pick some examples) anything with Dark Sun or Planescape on the cover.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9541981, member: 42582"] I don't agree with this at all. OSR, at least as I see it (which is as an observer, not a participant) is about [I]skilled play[/I] of the sort Gygax advocated in his PHB, but with a tighter system -often inspired by Moldvay's, which is tighter than Gygax's, but also drawing on the 40 subsequent years of technical developments in RPG design. The notions of "purity" and "goodness" are not apposite. I mean, one might come across a snide remark here and there about DL and its aftermath, but those are peripheral, not essential, to the actual RPGing that the OSR is aiming at. There is a reason, though, for a focus on a certain "sliver of time" - that's the time in which systems aimed at skilled play were published. So it makes sense, if one wishes to engage in that sort of play, to attend to those texts. You are not going to learn anything useful about skilled play by reading (just to pick some examples) anything with Dark Sun or Planescape on the cover. [/QUOTE]

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