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<blockquote data-quote="zakael19" data-source="post: 9542114" data-attributes="member: 7044099">In the context of 5e, your last is absolutely correct, and part of what many of us dislike about 5e in particular: this culturally reinforced offloading of effort onto the shoulders of a singular person instead of shared and balanced.But in say PF2e? If you're not engaging in skilled play as a player for that game (understanding your action decisions space, working together to leverage skill synergies, discovering enemy weaknesses and compensating appropriately), those balanced encounters are gonna give you a seriously hard time.As I've been saying, newer OSR games (and blog/philosophy posts) absolutely have player-facing guidance on how to exercise skill to survive &amp; prosper; and then modules are designed to facilitate that (lots of information, foreshadowing of dangers, open decision space for creativity). PBTAs/FITD games have explicit player agendas that say &quot;for this game to work right: follow these things.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zakael19, post: 9542114, member: 7044099"] In the context of 5e, your last is absolutely correct, and part of what many of us dislike about 5e in particular: this culturally reinforced offloading of effort onto the shoulders of a singular person instead of shared and balanced. But in say PF2e? If you're not engaging in skilled play as a player for that game (understanding your action decisions space, working together to leverage skill synergies, discovering enemy weaknesses and compensating appropriately), those balanced encounters are gonna give you a seriously hard time. As I've been saying, newer OSR games (and blog/philosophy posts) absolutely have player-facing guidance on how to exercise skill to survive & prosper; and then modules are designed to facilitate that (lots of information, foreshadowing of dangers, open decision space for creativity). PBTAs/FITD games have explicit player agendas that say "for this game to work right: follow these things." [/QUOTE]

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