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<blockquote data-quote="Bae'zel" data-source="post: 9542512" data-attributes="member: 7048197">I always resented that interpretation, especially when many OSR folks insisted on the title &quot;Referee&quot; instead of DM, to imply total impartiality either way. The other implication was that it was player vs dungeon, the Referee was just the one arbitrating the rules and running the show.I say &quot;resent&quot; because I've had to &quot;unlearn&quot; many players over the past 20 years that I, the DM, is NOT out to get them. That the game is NOT player vs. DM. Nothing like players trying to outwit me, causing the game to grind to a halt as I have to scramble to change course and sort out how to proceed. Touché, witty player, you've just put the game on pause for everyone. I hope that you're happy, I guess?Said players were either avid Games Workshop players, or people who had really naughty word DMs in the past who WERE of the mind that they were antagonists.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bae'zel, post: 9542512, member: 7048197"] I always resented that interpretation, especially when many OSR folks insisted on the title "Referee" instead of DM, to imply total impartiality either way. The other implication was that it was player vs dungeon, the Referee was just the one arbitrating the rules and running the show. I say "resent" because I've had to "unlearn" many players over the past 20 years that I, the DM, is NOT out to get them. That the game is NOT player vs. DM. Nothing like players trying to outwit me, causing the game to grind to a halt as I have to scramble to change course and sort out how to proceed. Touché, witty player, you've just put the game on pause for everyone. I hope that you're happy, I guess? Said players were either avid Games Workshop players, or people who had really naughty word DMs in the past who WERE of the mind that they were antagonists. [/QUOTE]

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