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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9574740" data-attributes="member: 18">Sure, absolutely, but the problem with that approach of "shoot first, then tell people to hand over their wallets" is that you get covered in blood trying to get wallets off corpses.And in this case, if you just dropped it without at least trying to negotiate, it would have been an instant and massive explosion, and basically no 3PPs would have signed it, so suddenly 5E would have no real 3PPs, and the industry and a lot of players would be mad as hell about it.As Mike says, if they just wanted no OGL, they should have said "no OGL for 5.5".They absolutely do have similarities, but I work at a law firm so I see both regularly. What I send to our clients, and my colleagues, I'm asking for feedback on. What my colleagues and clients send to the other side, that's something they're negotiating, and that's very different, and well be transmitted in very different ways.I feel like this whole "we just wanted feedback UwU smol company" deal is just a very funny retcon when you actually read the documents involved. At best they were attempting to start a negotiation from a place of strength, and they expected to get the vast majority of what they were asking for.And what they were asking for was insane, particularly control-wise.</blockquote>