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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 9043348" data-attributes="member: 57383">I rough-drafted my proposals in the Enworld <a href="https://www.enworld.org/posts/9036488" target="_blank">Derro Chaos Savant</a>:Wouldn't include &quot;Will of Madness&quot; (which is &quot;Mad Insight&quot; in my version) as substituting CHA for STR with the Chaos Staff.I was thinking of making the Staff a magic implement, so the Savant uses its Spellcasting to-hit with it and it does statless damage like a spell.My other idea was giving Strength of Madness a worthwhile duration/frequency and use that to give its Chaos Staff a decent chance of hitting &amp; doing damage.The 4E Derro Savant has a good chance of hitting with its Scourge (the equivalent to our boy's Staff), as it has a +21 to hit in melee and is a Level 16 Controller. Its Mind Scourge ranged attack is +19.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 9043348, member: 57383"] I rough-drafted my proposals in the Enworld [B][URL='https://www.enworld.org/posts/9036488']Derro Chaos Savant[/URL][/B]: Wouldn't include "[I][B]Will of Madness[/B][/I]" (which is "[I][B]Mad Insight[/B][/I]" in my version) as substituting CHA for STR with the [I][B]Chaos Staff[/B][/I]. I was thinking of making the [I][B]Staff[/B][/I] a magic implement, so the Savant uses its Spellcasting to-hit with it and it does statless damage like a spell. My other idea was giving [I][B]Strength of Madness[/B][/I] a worthwhile duration/frequency and use that to give its [I][B]Chaos Staff[/B][/I] a decent chance of hitting & doing damage. The 4E Derro Savant has a good chance of hitting with its Scourge (the equivalent to our boy's Staff), as it has a +21 to hit in melee and is a Level 16 Controller. Its Mind Scourge ranged attack is +19. [/QUOTE]

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