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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8286268" data-attributes="member: 6796468"><p>Really weird to take one section of an acknowledgement of misremembering and subsequent wrongness and take me to task on it as if I were still claiming that preservers took longer. Wild.</p><p></p><p>As to the second part: Your anecdotal evidence is not compelling. "Most" tables is going to be entirely subjective without TSR's numbers. Also depends on players individual enjoyment of different classes and stuff. That's up there with saying Druids aren't important in Forgotten Realms because "Most" players didn't play Druids.</p><p></p><p>As to whether the Psionicist was pretty core to the setting?</p><p></p><p>1994's The Will and the Way was a Dark Sun Specific expansion on the Psionicist Class. With additional rules for psionics as a whole, extra special material for the Psionicist class, and new sciences and devotions that people with Wild Talents just couldn't access.</p><p></p><p>Both Dark Sun and the Complete Psionics Handbook were released in the same year and meant to be used together. Did every table? Nope, clearly! Did most? No way to know. Did some choose not to use it 'cause they felt it was extraneous? Did some choose not to use it 'cause they didn't like the Psionicist class? Did a boatload not use it 'cause they couldn't afford to buy both the box and the book at the same time...? </p><p></p><p>Lotsa reasons why not... but.</p><p></p><p>But TSR kept producing content for Dark Sun and produced Dark Sun Content that was an explicit expansion on the Complete Psionics Handbook and the Psionicist class. And then 4e kept it going.</p><p></p><p>I don't know why so many people are acting like WotC somehow thinks Psionicists aren't a core part of Dark Sun when they released the PHB3 for 4e on March 16th 2010 and then dropped Dark Sun on August 17th the same year. Roughly as far apart as the Complete Psionics Handbook and Dark Sun box set for 2e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 8286268, member: 6796468"] Really weird to take one section of an acknowledgement of misremembering and subsequent wrongness and take me to task on it as if I were still claiming that preservers took longer. Wild. As to the second part: Your anecdotal evidence is not compelling. "Most" tables is going to be entirely subjective without TSR's numbers. Also depends on players individual enjoyment of different classes and stuff. That's up there with saying Druids aren't important in Forgotten Realms because "Most" players didn't play Druids. As to whether the Psionicist was pretty core to the setting? 1994's The Will and the Way was a Dark Sun Specific expansion on the Psionicist Class. With additional rules for psionics as a whole, extra special material for the Psionicist class, and new sciences and devotions that people with Wild Talents just couldn't access. Both Dark Sun and the Complete Psionics Handbook were released in the same year and meant to be used together. Did every table? Nope, clearly! Did most? No way to know. Did some choose not to use it 'cause they felt it was extraneous? Did some choose not to use it 'cause they didn't like the Psionicist class? Did a boatload not use it 'cause they couldn't afford to buy both the box and the book at the same time...? Lotsa reasons why not... but. But TSR kept producing content for Dark Sun and produced Dark Sun Content that was an explicit expansion on the Complete Psionics Handbook and the Psionicist class. And then 4e kept it going. I don't know why so many people are acting like WotC somehow thinks Psionicists aren't a core part of Dark Sun when they released the PHB3 for 4e on March 16th 2010 and then dropped Dark Sun on August 17th the same year. Roughly as far apart as the Complete Psionics Handbook and Dark Sun box set for 2e. [/QUOTE]
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