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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 8286336" data-attributes="member: 205">I think [USER=87792]@Neonchameleon[/USER]'s broader point is that the defiling temptation should be at the time of casting (as 4e's mechanic was), rather than during character generation (as 2e's was).  The specific implementation and power level can be tweaked, but the idea that even a devoted preserver can fall into defiling in a desperate moment is a strong one I feel that's worthy of mechanical inclusion.Personally, I'd prefer that defiling be the default, and preserving be the choice with an at-cast time cost, but there are certainly multiple methods of implementation.</blockquote>