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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8286960" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>And Aberrant Minds have power points but called something else. All that is different is the name - the points become fully fungible at level 6. This clear water does not exist other than in name.</p><p></p><p>So the 3.5 Psion wasn't psychic? They certainly had their powers formatted like spells. This clear water is once again in name only</p><p></p><p>Oh look. So can other casters. There is no clear water here either</p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmm... Do sorcerers have spells to do this? Yes. There is no clear water here.</p><p></p><p>So they have weird names. I never disputed there was a name. Can sorcerers heal? Divine soul can. </p><p></p><p>So do sorcerers</p><p></p><p>Then stop saying they exist and start producing some of these mythical mechanics because so far all you have done is given odd names to sorcerer stuff.</p><p></p><p>Sounds like a good start.</p><p></p><p>This could actually be pretty interesting. I'll give you that - but don't really see why it's pure psychic.</p><p></p><p>Why is that not something a sorcerer could do? And I was doing something of the sort with Malediction Invoked in 4e and have proposed it for warlocks as a blood sacrifice - and blood mages are a thing. Again far from psionic exclusive</p><p></p><p>And what new character concepts did it fit?</p><p></p><p>So ... to sum up the big thing that distinguishes it is that you created an entirely new class that could concentrate on two spells at a time.</p><p></p><p>Not seeing specifically psychic stuff there - just you moving into deliberately untapped design space and giving it the name psychic.</p><p></p><p>And 5e has already got some psychic stuff. It can't do that so that's not the distinguishing feature of psionics. And doesn't as far as I know even have a history in D&D</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8286960, member: 87792"] And Aberrant Minds have power points but called something else. All that is different is the name - the points become fully fungible at level 6. This clear water does not exist other than in name. So the 3.5 Psion wasn't psychic? They certainly had their powers formatted like spells. This clear water is once again in name only Oh look. So can other casters. There is no clear water here either Hmm... Do sorcerers have spells to do this? Yes. There is no clear water here. So they have weird names. I never disputed there was a name. Can sorcerers heal? Divine soul can. So do sorcerers Then stop saying they exist and start producing some of these mythical mechanics because so far all you have done is given odd names to sorcerer stuff. Sounds like a good start. This could actually be pretty interesting. I'll give you that - but don't really see why it's pure psychic. Why is that not something a sorcerer could do? And I was doing something of the sort with Malediction Invoked in 4e and have proposed it for warlocks as a blood sacrifice - and blood mages are a thing. Again far from psionic exclusive And what new character concepts did it fit? So ... to sum up the big thing that distinguishes it is that you created an entirely new class that could concentrate on two spells at a time. Not seeing specifically psychic stuff there - just you moving into deliberately untapped design space and giving it the name psychic. And 5e has already got some psychic stuff. It can't do that so that's not the distinguishing feature of psionics. And doesn't as far as I know even have a history in D&D [/QUOTE]
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