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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8288063" data-attributes="member: 6796468"><p>Personally I see that as kind of a good thing... But only because I don't imagine MAGIC and Psionics to be fungible.</p><p></p><p>But you know what could be? Ki points. Maneuver Dice. Rages. Psionic Energy Dice. Other class features and functions that aren't magic but require focus, powerful emotions, or control.</p><p></p><p>Rather than making Psions into just another full caster class to lump in with the rest of the full casters, we could make them interact with other systems of character power to make multiclassing an Intelligence Caster and a Warrior or Rogue type character much more attractive and, ultimately, Gishy!</p><p></p><p>And honestly I think that's a much more interesting angle to take.</p><p></p><p>Have you looked at Kibbles' Psion? It's here: <a href="https://www.gmbinder.com/share/-LZSNMgmChWNGW979hrj" target="_blank">5e - Psion (KibblesTasty) by KibblesTasty</a></p><p></p><p>And holy crap is it interesting! They do add Telekinesis as Force but also Psychokinesis as energy manipulation. Only 3 types. Fire, Ice, Electricity.</p><p></p><p>And using their setup you could make a really simple "Poisoned Body" discipline where you modify your body to be toxic to others and basically make the cantrip version into a spitting poison spray with Power Point Pumpability to make it have more range, do more damage, hit an area, or deal Acid damage instead of poison and double damage to objects!</p><p></p><p>The other big things to consider are: Because the class's main discipline function is cantrip-upcasting in different ways they get a lot of flexibility in function as they level up without costing their limited Psi point resources. But they -can- use their limited Psi Points (Caps out at 20 instead of 24) to simulate spellcasting.</p><p></p><p>But since their spellcasting costs 1 power point per spell level, rather than more variable spell point costs, I think they actually wind up with a little more spellcasting than warlocks... but their spells are more limited in scope. Specifically, their Disciplines only get a very curated list of spells tied to that specific Discipline. Telepathy gets 16 "Spells Known", but they're all about invading someone's mind, striking some terror, or dealing some Psychic Damage. They get Dominate Beast and Person, but no Charm effects.</p><p></p><p>And then they get Warlock style 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th level spells once per day, of course. And all their spells that -can- be upcast, even beyond 5th level, just take 1 power point to upcast per level. So if you wanna throw an Upcasted Fireball as a Psychokineticist you spend 3 points for the spell itself and increase it's damage with every extra power point you spend on it... Up to a Maximum, at 20th level, of your Psi Point Cap. 10.</p><p></p><p>They can do a "Tenth Level" Fireball! But it takes -half- of your total points for the day.</p><p></p><p>Seriously, I think if you look at this thing it might honestly be pretty much exactly what you're looking for in a way you weren't looking for it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I would LOVE this book. I would read the everloving naughty word out of it. Cover to cover. Just like Ravenloft.</p><p></p><p>And then I would run the naughty word out of it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 8288063, member: 6796468"] Personally I see that as kind of a good thing... But only because I don't imagine MAGIC and Psionics to be fungible. But you know what could be? Ki points. Maneuver Dice. Rages. Psionic Energy Dice. Other class features and functions that aren't magic but require focus, powerful emotions, or control. Rather than making Psions into just another full caster class to lump in with the rest of the full casters, we could make them interact with other systems of character power to make multiclassing an Intelligence Caster and a Warrior or Rogue type character much more attractive and, ultimately, Gishy! And honestly I think that's a much more interesting angle to take. Have you looked at Kibbles' Psion? It's here: [URL='https://www.gmbinder.com/share/-LZSNMgmChWNGW979hrj']5e - Psion (KibblesTasty) by KibblesTasty[/URL] And holy crap is it interesting! They do add Telekinesis as Force but also Psychokinesis as energy manipulation. Only 3 types. Fire, Ice, Electricity. And using their setup you could make a really simple "Poisoned Body" discipline where you modify your body to be toxic to others and basically make the cantrip version into a spitting poison spray with Power Point Pumpability to make it have more range, do more damage, hit an area, or deal Acid damage instead of poison and double damage to objects! The other big things to consider are: Because the class's main discipline function is cantrip-upcasting in different ways they get a lot of flexibility in function as they level up without costing their limited Psi point resources. But they -can- use their limited Psi Points (Caps out at 20 instead of 24) to simulate spellcasting. But since their spellcasting costs 1 power point per spell level, rather than more variable spell point costs, I think they actually wind up with a little more spellcasting than warlocks... but their spells are more limited in scope. Specifically, their Disciplines only get a very curated list of spells tied to that specific Discipline. Telepathy gets 16 "Spells Known", but they're all about invading someone's mind, striking some terror, or dealing some Psychic Damage. They get Dominate Beast and Person, but no Charm effects. And then they get Warlock style 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th level spells once per day, of course. And all their spells that -can- be upcast, even beyond 5th level, just take 1 power point to upcast per level. So if you wanna throw an Upcasted Fireball as a Psychokineticist you spend 3 points for the spell itself and increase it's damage with every extra power point you spend on it... Up to a Maximum, at 20th level, of your Psi Point Cap. 10. They can do a "Tenth Level" Fireball! But it takes -half- of your total points for the day. Seriously, I think if you look at this thing it might honestly be pretty much exactly what you're looking for in a way you weren't looking for it. I would LOVE this book. I would read the everloving naughty word out of it. Cover to cover. Just like Ravenloft. And then I would run the naughty word out of it. [/QUOTE]
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