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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6322264" data-attributes="member: 18">I sure do! It's way, way beyond &quot;work very well together and employ teamwork&quot;, which is something adventurers could certainly do. +2d6 damage? Every single time? No conditions beyond adjacency? No extra actions used? It's more than a Thief will do on a backstab until what, 4 or 5? That's huge!That's got to be ultra-specialized training, at the very least.This is a counter-intuitive and difficult-to-rationalize ability that is quite likely to drop PCs very quickly, quite possibly without them understanding how it works.Sure, if they know about it and understand it, that stuff works to a limited extent (Thunderwave is unlikely to help in the way you think), but you've entirely missed my point - I feel that's unlikely that they will know about it at the levels where Hobgoblins are a big threat.What do you want to bet on the default push maneuver, btw? Because I'm betting not. It wouldn't help, either, in most situations, due to the way moves, OAs and so on work in 5E. They just need to move to the right place then attack.No, he doesn't, and that's the sort of thing you wouldn't even dare say to his face, let alone do. No-one deserves violence for not knowing a game backwards. That's messed-up. Seriously.He couldn't even HAVE a Feat at these levels, either, Agamon. What do you think we're playing, 3E?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 6322264, member: 18"] I sure do! It's way, [I]way[/I] beyond "work very well together and employ teamwork", which is something adventurers could certainly do. +2d6 damage? Every single time? No conditions beyond adjacency? No extra actions used? It's more than a Thief will do on a backstab until what, 4 or 5? That's huge! That's got to be [I]ultra[/I]-specialized training, at the very least. This is a counter-intuitive and difficult-to-rationalize ability that is quite likely to drop PCs very quickly, quite possibly without them understanding how it works. Sure,[I] if[/I] they know about it and understand it, that stuff works to a [I]limited extent[/I] (Thunderwave is unlikely to help in the way you think), but you've entirely missed my point - I feel that's unlikely that they will know about it at the levels where Hobgoblins are a big threat. What do you want to bet on the default push maneuver, btw? Because I'm betting not. It wouldn't help, either, in most situations, due to the way moves, OAs and so on work in 5E. They just need to move to the right place then attack. No, he doesn't, and that's the sort of thing you wouldn't even dare say to his face, let alone do. No-one deserves violence for not knowing a game backwards. That's messed-up. Seriously. He couldn't even HAVE a Feat at these levels, either, Agamon. What do you think we're playing, 3E? [/QUOTE]

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