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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6324212" data-attributes="member: 42582">Klaus, not meaning to pick on you, just responding to your reply.To me this would make sense if it was 2 hobgoblins on 2 PCs. Its the 2 hobgolins on 2 PCs scenario that puzzles me.Agains these Hobgoblins its better to attack via skirmish rather than formation: eg in the following scenario the PCs A and B aren't vulnerable to martial advantage, because neither has an ally of 1 or 2 within 5':A 1 2 BBut in real life, wasn't it more effective to meet a phalanx with a phalanx, or a legion with a legion, rather than to try to take them on with skirmishers?If that's so that's a pity.Maybe it's more about teamwork than formation. Perhaps each hobgoblin looks to the defence of the other, freeing the friend up to attack more viciously.Even if I can make sense of the fiction I still don't think I like the implicatin for play - that it's an error to draw up your own ranks in opposition to hobgoblins. But at least I would know what is going on.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6324212, member: 42582"] Klaus, not meaning to pick on you, just responding to your reply. To me this would make sense if it was 2 hobgoblins on 2 PCs. Its the 2 hobgolins on 2 PCs scenario that puzzles me. Agains these Hobgoblins its better to attack via skirmish rather than formation: eg in the following scenario the PCs A and B aren't vulnerable to martial advantage, because neither has an ally of 1 or 2 within 5': A 1 2 B But in real life, wasn't it more effective to meet a phalanx with a phalanx, or a legion with a legion, rather than to try to take them on with skirmishers? If that's so that's a pity. Maybe it's more about teamwork than formation. Perhaps each hobgoblin looks to the defence of the other, freeing the friend up to attack more viciously. Even if I can make sense of the fiction I still don't think I like the implicatin for play - that it's an error to draw up your own ranks in opposition to hobgoblins. But at least I would know what is going on. [/QUOTE]

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