Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="ccooke" data-source="post: 7318657" data-attributes="member: 6695890">Hmm. I think you need to rethink a few things in your balancing. Some examples built with your material:[sblock=Greater Greater Invisibility]Greater Greater InvisibilityTarget:  Creature (1)Range:  Touch (0)Challenge:  Saving throw for no damage (1)Effects:  1d4 healing (1)Status Effects:  Invisible 10 rounds (10)Casting Time:  Bonus Action (3)Recipe Aid:  Verbal component: (-2)  Somatic component: (-1)  Material (focus): (-1)Total: 1 + 1 + 1 + 10 + 3 -2 -1 -1 = 14mpThis is a spell that a first level character can cast twice per day. It heals 1d4 hit points on the target (because by the RAW you must have an effect, and there's no option for "No effect"), then makes them invisible for 1 minute without concentration.If that first-level character wishes, they can cast it twice per day *and* attack once per casting without breaking invisibility. At 2nd level, they can cast it three times and have a total of 16 rounds of attacks without breaking invisibility.[/sblock][sblock=Magic Missile]Magic MissileTarget:  Creature (1)Range:  3 bolts, 120'. 4 for first 8 for 2&3 20pChallenge:  No save/attack (double cost)Effects:  3d6 (2+3+4) 9  Force: 1Casting time:  Action (0)Recipe aid:  Mat Foc (-1)  Verb (-2)  Som (-1)-4 + 10 + 20 + 1 = 27 * 2 = 54This is the equivalent of 1st-level magic missile. It's using 1d6 vs 1d4+1, because the average damage is the same. It has three bolts, which means it can't actually be cast until level 5, but that's reasonable because it's impossible to cast at 1st level anyway. Even a level 2 caster would have trouble casting anything else in the same day.[/sblock][sblock=Firebolt]FireboltTarget:  Creature (1)Range:  120', 1 bolt. (4)Challenge:  Spell Attack: (2)Effects:  1d10 (4)  Fire (1)Aids:  Mat Foc (-1)  Verb (-2)  Som (-1)12 - 4 = 8.Here's the standard cantrip Firebolt. It comes out at 8 points, or around three castings for a 1st level character[/sblock][sblock=Misty Step]Misty StepTarget:  Caster (-1)Range:  Touch (0)Challenge:  Saving throw for no damage (1)Effects:  1d4 healing (1)Status Effects:  Teleport 30' (1)Casting Time  Bonus Action (3)Recipe Aids  Verbal (-2)6 - 3 = 3This is a version of the usually 2nd level Misty Step which a 1st level Mage can cast 10 times in a day. It also heals 1d4 points currently due to the effect anomaly.[/sblock]Some points:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> You're not taking Concentration effects into consideration, and that wildly affects balance on some of your effects</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Try rebuilding existing spells in your system. Right now, non-damage is far too cheap and damage is too expensive. Healing looks to be a bit too cheap, too. I believe I could make a 0mp recipe that allows you to self-heal 1d6 as a bonus action, for instance.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> As people mentioned, force damage should be at least as expensive as Psychic.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> I think you're taking too much in your archetypes, too - you're giving full-sized class features. I would scale back a lot, personally.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> You're missing which saves the class is proficient in. </li> </ul>Feedback aside, it's an interesting concept I'd like to see more of. Thanks for sharing it.</blockquote>

Verification