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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 7487518" data-attributes="member: 6787503">That’s essentially what I’m advocating. If the DM doesn’t like the golem’s chances of staying hidden based on a DEX (Stealth) check, s/he can set a DC to notice it as one would for a hidden object, which is, in effect, setting the result of the check. A DC of 20 to notice the golem seems appropriate considering the highest result the golem could achieve on a DEX check is 19, so a 20 would always beat it, but situational modifiers could apply as well.I would leave whether the golem makes any noise up to the result of the PCs' WIS (Perception) checks. Certainly, creaks and groans could emanate from such a large machine made of iron, especially one that is sentient and may have only recently settled into place.It seems the relevant action you need to take to find a hidden invisible golem as you enter the room in which it’s standing is to keep watch for hidden threats. If you’re attention is focused on some other activity, you won’t have a chance of noticing it, but if you’re alert for danger, you might. My reading of the spell doesn’t include direction or intensity. You would just sense the presence of magic when within 30 feet of the golem.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 7487518, member: 6787503"] That’s essentially what I’m advocating. If the DM doesn’t like the golem’s chances of staying hidden based on a DEX (Stealth) check, s/he can set a DC to notice it as one would for a hidden object, which is, in effect, setting the result of the check. A DC of 20 to notice the golem seems appropriate considering the highest result the golem could achieve on a DEX check is 19, so a 20 would always beat it, but situational modifiers could apply as well. I would leave whether the golem makes any noise up to the result of the PCs' WIS (Perception) checks. Certainly, creaks and groans could emanate from such a large machine made of iron, especially one that is sentient and may have only recently settled into place. It seems the relevant action you need to take to find a hidden invisible golem as you enter the room in which it’s standing is to keep watch for hidden threats. If you’re attention is focused on some other activity, you won’t have a chance of noticing it, but if you’re alert for danger, you might. My reading of the spell doesn’t include direction or intensity. You would just sense the presence of magic when within 30 feet of the golem. [/QUOTE]

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