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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7490347" data-attributes="member: 6801845">If a golem is walking toward you, you could easily hear it before you see it.  If it's an inanimate unmoving statue, stealth rules probably don't apply.  Other checks may apply as determined by the DM.If something (or some creature) cannot be clearly seen or is disguised, it's always up to the DM to decide if stealth rules apply.  It doesn't matter if it's a bear sleeping in the woods, a possessed doll on a shelf or an invisible golem.  Taking the hide action by making a stealth role is not the only way to be undetected.If the stealth rules don't apply the DM has to decide if it can be detected, how, and what the DC is.</blockquote>