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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7490392" data-attributes="member: 6801845">I've encountered bears in the woods (mountains in Montana) and while seeing them scared the **** out of me for a moment, and hearing something tromping around in the brush that you can't see is kind of terrifying there was no time when it was close enough to hear it breath.&nbsp; Unless you're DareDevil, I doubt you would hear it's breathing over ambient noise until it was on top of you.&nbsp; At which point you've probably noticed it anyway.&nbsp; Unless of course it's &quot;huffing&quot; and making noise on purpose.Try it sometime.&nbsp; In a crowded room where you aren't packed in like sardines, tell me if you can hear anyone breathing.&nbsp; Unless it's a gym, I would guess no.The way i would rule is that breathing (especially while asleep) doesn't really have anything to do with dexterity and is therefore a different DC that I would set based on the environment, whether I think they would snore, and size of the creature.&nbsp; A sleeping dragon is going to move a lot more air and make a lot more noise than a sleeping pixie.Perfectly fine to rule differently of course.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7490392, member: 6801845"] I've encountered bears in the woods (mountains in Montana) and while seeing them scared the **** out of me for a moment, and hearing [I]something[/I] tromping around in the brush that you can't see is kind of terrifying there was no time when it was close enough to hear it breath. Unless you're DareDevil, I doubt you would hear it's breathing over ambient noise until it was on top of you. At which point you've probably noticed it anyway. Unless of course it's "huffing" and making noise on purpose. Try it sometime. In a crowded room where you aren't packed in like sardines, tell me if you can hear anyone breathing. Unless it's a gym, I would guess no. The way i would rule is that breathing (especially while asleep) doesn't really have anything to do with dexterity and is therefore a different DC that I would set based on the environment, whether I think they would snore, and size of the creature. A sleeping dragon is going to move a lot more air and make a lot more noise than a sleeping pixie. Perfectly fine to rule differently of course. [/QUOTE]

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