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[5e] Modification of -5/+10 Feats
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<blockquote data-quote="Tormyr" data-source="post: 7129944" data-attributes="member: 6776887"><p>The highlight of this is that, like -Prof/+Prof Damage option, after you get a second attack, it can only be used against inferior foes or when you have advantage.</p><p></p><p>Another way to make things work for the PC but not be open to piling on the bonuses would be to treat the +10 damage like sneak attack. You do not have to take a -to hit ever, but you only get the +10 on your first hit in the turn. It gives a bigger bonus in regular conditions, but it does not scale with additional attacks as much.</p><p></p><p>DPR for level 1 PCs:</p><p>Fighter: 6.85</p><p>Champion: 6.85</p><p>GWM Fighter: 9.71</p><p>GWM Champion: 9.71</p><p>GWM Fighter No 10: 7.82</p><p>GWM Fighter ProfDmg: 7.94</p><p>GWM Fighter 2*ProfDmg: 9.33</p><p>GWM 1 / Turn: 9.5</p><p>GWM 10 on first hit: 14.95</p><p></p><p>DPR for level 1 PCs with advantage:</p><p>Fighter: 9.46</p><p>Champion: 9.46</p><p>GWM Fighter: 17.23</p><p>GWM Champion: 17.23</p><p>GWM Fighter No10: 11.55</p><p>GWM Fighter ProfDmg: 12.63</p><p>GWM Fighter 2*ProfDmg: 14.87</p><p>GWM 1 / Turn: 16.2</p><p>GWM 10 on first hit:21.49</p><p></p><p>DPR for level 20 PCs:</p><p>Fighter: 32.6</p><p>Champion: 35.4</p><p>GWM Fighter: 39.2</p><p>GWM Champion: 45.08</p><p>GWM Fighter No10: 34.83</p><p>GWM Fighter ProfDmg: 28.3</p><p>GWM Fighter 2*ProfDmg: 37.45</p><p>Keira no GWM: 57.58</p><p>Keira w/ GWM: 73.94</p><p>GWM 1 / Turn: 28.34</p><p>GWM 10 on first hit: 44.90</p><p></p><p>DPR for level 20 PCs with advantage:</p><p>Fighter: 44.85</p><p>Champion: 49.89</p><p>GWM Fighter: 66.35</p><p>GWM Champion: 78.28</p><p>GWM Fighter No10: 49.95</p><p>GWM Fighter ProfDmg: 49.33</p><p>GWM Fighter 2*ProfDmg: 65.33</p><p>Keira no GWM: 73.66</p><p>Keira w/ GWM: 118.13</p><p>GWM 1 / Turn: 47.98</p><p>GWM 10 on first hit:60.26</p><p></p><p>DPR for level 20 PCs against CR 1 enemies:</p><p>Fighter: 47</p><p>Champion: 49.8</p><p>GWM Fighter: 78.75</p><p>GWM Champion: 82.25</p><p>GWM Fighter No10: 56.73</p><p>GWM Fighter ProfDmg: 58.38</p><p>GWM Fighter 2*ProfDmg: 79.75</p><p>Keira no GWM: 67.06</p><p>Keira w/ GWM: 118.43</p><p>GWM 1 / Turn: 56.2</p><p>GWM 10 on first hit: 68.38</p><p></p><p>DPR for level 20 PCs against CR 1 enemies with advantage:</p><p>Fighter 50.61</p><p>Champion 55.65</p><p>GWM Fighter 103.51</p><p>GWM Champion 109.81</p><p>GWM Fighter No10 63.26</p><p>GWM Fighter ProfDmg 82.39</p><p>GWM Fighter 2*ProfDmg: 108.71</p><p>Keira no GWM 76.03</p><p>Keira w/ GWM 146.33</p><p>GWM 1 / Turn: 70.06</p><p>GWM 10 on first hit: 73.26</p><p></p><p>To the OP, I will say that I have never had an issue with GWM as it is. Keira was a PC in my campaign, and her level 20 DPR is posted. During dangerous times, the wizard would cast <em>foresight</em> on her, giving her advantage on every attack. Even then, the damage was manageable. Sometimes she cleaved through waves of enemies, and sometimes the Advantage from <em>foresight</em> was neutralized.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tormyr, post: 7129944, member: 6776887"] The highlight of this is that, like -Prof/+Prof Damage option, after you get a second attack, it can only be used against inferior foes or when you have advantage. Another way to make things work for the PC but not be open to piling on the bonuses would be to treat the +10 damage like sneak attack. You do not have to take a -to hit ever, but you only get the +10 on your first hit in the turn. It gives a bigger bonus in regular conditions, but it does not scale with additional attacks as much. DPR for level 1 PCs: Fighter: 6.85 Champion: 6.85 GWM Fighter: 9.71 GWM Champion: 9.71 GWM Fighter No 10: 7.82 GWM Fighter ProfDmg: 7.94 GWM Fighter 2*ProfDmg: 9.33 GWM 1 / Turn: 9.5 GWM 10 on first hit: 14.95 DPR for level 1 PCs with advantage: Fighter: 9.46 Champion: 9.46 GWM Fighter: 17.23 GWM Champion: 17.23 GWM Fighter No10: 11.55 GWM Fighter ProfDmg: 12.63 GWM Fighter 2*ProfDmg: 14.87 GWM 1 / Turn: 16.2 GWM 10 on first hit:21.49 DPR for level 20 PCs: Fighter: 32.6 Champion: 35.4 GWM Fighter: 39.2 GWM Champion: 45.08 GWM Fighter No10: 34.83 GWM Fighter ProfDmg: 28.3 GWM Fighter 2*ProfDmg: 37.45 Keira no GWM: 57.58 Keira w/ GWM: 73.94 GWM 1 / Turn: 28.34 GWM 10 on first hit: 44.90 DPR for level 20 PCs with advantage: Fighter: 44.85 Champion: 49.89 GWM Fighter: 66.35 GWM Champion: 78.28 GWM Fighter No10: 49.95 GWM Fighter ProfDmg: 49.33 GWM Fighter 2*ProfDmg: 65.33 Keira no GWM: 73.66 Keira w/ GWM: 118.13 GWM 1 / Turn: 47.98 GWM 10 on first hit:60.26 DPR for level 20 PCs against CR 1 enemies: Fighter: 47 Champion: 49.8 GWM Fighter: 78.75 GWM Champion: 82.25 GWM Fighter No10: 56.73 GWM Fighter ProfDmg: 58.38 GWM Fighter 2*ProfDmg: 79.75 Keira no GWM: 67.06 Keira w/ GWM: 118.43 GWM 1 / Turn: 56.2 GWM 10 on first hit: 68.38 DPR for level 20 PCs against CR 1 enemies with advantage: Fighter 50.61 Champion 55.65 GWM Fighter 103.51 GWM Champion 109.81 GWM Fighter No10 63.26 GWM Fighter ProfDmg 82.39 GWM Fighter 2*ProfDmg: 108.71 Keira no GWM 76.03 Keira w/ GWM 146.33 GWM 1 / Turn: 70.06 GWM 10 on first hit: 73.26 To the OP, I will say that I have never had an issue with GWM as it is. Keira was a PC in my campaign, and her level 20 DPR is posted. During dangerous times, the wizard would cast [I]foresight[/I] on her, giving her advantage on every attack. Even then, the damage was manageable. Sometimes she cleaved through waves of enemies, and sometimes the Advantage from [I]foresight[/I] was neutralized. [/QUOTE]
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