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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8993979" data-attributes="member: 6801845">I'm just not sure this isn't just CR by another name.While I applaud the effort to fix things, I'm not sure it can be fixed.&nbsp; Let's take 2 groups.&nbsp; Group 1 is made up of either dwarves or PCs with high con modifiers.&nbsp; Group 2 has a mix, no dwarves and average-for-adventurers constitutions.Now suppose they run into a green dragon.&nbsp; In group 1, the dwarves will have advantage on their poison saves and take half damage from the breath weapon.&nbsp; Group 2 will be at much higher risk.&nbsp; But wait ... what if group 1 significantly lacks ranged attacks while group 2 is full of archers and PCs with ranged spells?&nbsp; Suddenly the picture could look far different.&nbsp; My own experience is that you have to balance the encounters on a group by group basis.Any system we come up with is never going to be fool proof.&nbsp; I think there are better calculations for balancing encounters based on CR than what we get in the DMG, I'm just not sure how this helps much.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8993979, member: 6801845"] I'm just not sure this isn't just CR by another name. While I applaud the effort to fix things, I'm not sure it can be fixed. Let's take 2 groups. Group 1 is made up of either dwarves or PCs with high con modifiers. Group 2 has a mix, no dwarves and average-for-adventurers constitutions. Now suppose they run into a green dragon. In group 1, the dwarves will have advantage on their poison saves and take half damage from the breath weapon. Group 2 will be at much higher risk. But wait ... what if group 1 significantly lacks ranged attacks while group 2 is full of archers and PCs with ranged spells? Suddenly the picture could look far different. My own experience is that you have to balance the encounters on a group by group basis. Any system we come up with is never going to be fool proof. I think there are better calculations for balancing encounters based on CR than what we get in the DMG, I'm just not sure how this helps much. [/QUOTE]

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