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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 9398219" data-attributes="member: 83242">I wanted to give this one a go because you didn't get a value. Also, you listed the CR at 21, but my MM (and DnD Beyond) has it at 23.&nbsp; The solar is CR 21 IIRC. However, I also calculate it at CR 24 (but that is not far off from CR 23) and that is the CR I will use for my analysis. So on my table I get:Defense: HP gets lvl 37&nbsp; with a target AC of 33 (extrapolated by adding 12 HP per level and 1 AC/ 2 levels).&nbsp; -3 for AC of 26 (effective) = level 34 defense.Attack: DPR (124) gets lvl 21 with a target attack of +15. +1 for attack of +17 = level 22 attack.Total Level = (34 + 22) / 2 = level 28Now, what I would really do if I was remaking the Empyrean is to keep it at level 28, but revise it so:Effective HP is about 310 HP.Effective AC is about 28DPR is about 180Attack bonus is about +18So pretty close to the official empyrean, but less HP, higher AC, and more DPRAlso, it can't really capture low CR creatures at the moment. That will come when I get to the minion and grunt adjustments ( I hope).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 9398219, member: 83242"] I wanted to give this one a go because you didn't get a value. Also, you listed the CR at 21, but my MM (and DnD Beyond) has it at 23. The solar is CR 21 IIRC. However, I also calculate it at CR 24 (but that is not far off from CR 23) and that is the CR I will use for my analysis. So on my table I get: Defense: HP gets lvl 37 with a target AC of 33 (extrapolated by adding 12 HP per level and 1 AC/ 2 levels). -3 for AC of 26 (effective) = level 34 defense. Attack: DPR (124) gets lvl 21 with a target attack of +15. +1 for attack of +17 = level 22 attack. Total Level = (34 + 22) / 2 = [B][COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]level 28[/COLOR][/B] Now, what I would really do if I was remaking the Empyrean is to keep it at level 28, but revise it so: Effective HP is about 310 HP. Effective AC is about 28 DPR is about 180 Attack bonus is about +18 So pretty close to the official empyrean, but less HP, higher AC, and more DPR Also, it can't really capture low CR creatures at the moment. That will come when I get to the minion and grunt adjustments ( I hope). [/QUOTE]

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