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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 7988675" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>That depends on how much you consider stepping on toes 5e official WotC sources are. I'd argue that the Bladesinger and the Eldritch Knight occupy two separate niches that approximate "Warrior-Mage," just as the Battle Master and the Purple Dragon Knight/Banneret both approximate Warlords but from different perspectives.</p><p></p><p>What I'm speaking to is like Tal'Dorei listing stats for Ravenite Dragonborn and then Wildemount listing separate stats for Ravenite Dragonborn. Irreconcileable.</p><p></p><p>Or DM's Guild Adept title, Xanathar's Lost Notes to Everything Else, featuring Noble Genie Warlock and Runeguard Fighter subclasses, and then those same concepts showing up in official WotC UA.</p><p></p><p>WotC aren't going to publish in 5e 2 separate versions of the Warlock - Genie Patron. They might publish a Genie patron and an Elemental/Primordial patron, if desired enough, and yes, there's flavor overlap there, but it's not quite the same thing.</p><p></p><p>My issue is that there's dozens of different takes on the Fey Patron Warlock, or the Fey Magic Sorcerer, or yes, the Warlord and the Swordmage, on the DM's Guild, let alone beyond into the aether of the interwebs and esp Reddit. These are mutually incompatible because they are tackling the same goal but from different angles with different methodologies. If the OP wants to figure out which source is best for their game, that's hard to decide, because there's no good comparison showing them all side by side (that I know of!).</p><p></p><p>When it comes to settings, there are similar issues: If I want to play in an East Asian-inspired setting, I don't have the tools in official WotC products. So I could look at the DM's Guild – there's like a dozen Oriental Adventures in there by different authors. There's also the brilliant Shore of Dreams (set in Faerûn, but a Kara-Tur colony). I could also weigh other options - there are some conversions of Legend of the Five Rings, for example. But which is the best, the most balanced and suitable approach to play this genre setting in 5e? It's unclear.</p><p></p><p>But sure, there's overlap between Greyhawk and Mystara and the Realms and Dragonlance and Nerath (and sure, let's throw in Exandria too). But guess how many of those have been officially published in 5e? Greyhawk's got a couple of adventures, but is not open for business on the Guild unless you're supporting Ghosts of Saltmarsh specifically. Exandria and the Realms are the only Kitchen-Sink High Medieval Fantasy settings officially published in 5e, and they feel vastly different in terms of story vision.</p><p></p><p>I imagine we'll get some sort of publishing of Dragonlance in the future, if only because of the Draconian mention in the PHB (and that they went out of their way to change Draconians in Tal'Dorei into Draconbloods in Wildemount - evidence that WotC has plans for Draconians). But WotC is actively trying NOT to step on their own toes with genres.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 7988675, member: 6803643"] That depends on how much you consider stepping on toes 5e official WotC sources are. I'd argue that the Bladesinger and the Eldritch Knight occupy two separate niches that approximate "Warrior-Mage," just as the Battle Master and the Purple Dragon Knight/Banneret both approximate Warlords but from different perspectives. What I'm speaking to is like Tal'Dorei listing stats for Ravenite Dragonborn and then Wildemount listing separate stats for Ravenite Dragonborn. Irreconcileable. Or DM's Guild Adept title, Xanathar's Lost Notes to Everything Else, featuring Noble Genie Warlock and Runeguard Fighter subclasses, and then those same concepts showing up in official WotC UA. WotC aren't going to publish in 5e 2 separate versions of the Warlock - Genie Patron. They might publish a Genie patron and an Elemental/Primordial patron, if desired enough, and yes, there's flavor overlap there, but it's not quite the same thing. My issue is that there's dozens of different takes on the Fey Patron Warlock, or the Fey Magic Sorcerer, or yes, the Warlord and the Swordmage, on the DM's Guild, let alone beyond into the aether of the interwebs and esp Reddit. These are mutually incompatible because they are tackling the same goal but from different angles with different methodologies. If the OP wants to figure out which source is best for their game, that's hard to decide, because there's no good comparison showing them all side by side (that I know of!). When it comes to settings, there are similar issues: If I want to play in an East Asian-inspired setting, I don't have the tools in official WotC products. So I could look at the DM's Guild – there's like a dozen Oriental Adventures in there by different authors. There's also the brilliant Shore of Dreams (set in Faerûn, but a Kara-Tur colony). I could also weigh other options - there are some conversions of Legend of the Five Rings, for example. But which is the best, the most balanced and suitable approach to play this genre setting in 5e? It's unclear. But sure, there's overlap between Greyhawk and Mystara and the Realms and Dragonlance and Nerath (and sure, let's throw in Exandria too). But guess how many of those have been officially published in 5e? Greyhawk's got a couple of adventures, but is not open for business on the Guild unless you're supporting Ghosts of Saltmarsh specifically. Exandria and the Realms are the only Kitchen-Sink High Medieval Fantasy settings officially published in 5e, and they feel vastly different in terms of story vision. I imagine we'll get some sort of publishing of Dragonlance in the future, if only because of the Draconian mention in the PHB (and that they went out of their way to change Draconians in Tal'Dorei into Draconbloods in Wildemount - evidence that WotC has plans for Draconians). But WotC is actively trying NOT to step on their own toes with genres. [/QUOTE]
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