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<blockquote data-quote="NerfedWizard" data-source="post: 6359615" data-attributes="member: 68865"><p>Well I have thought about it some more and I guess if WOTC have done their job in what I would consider to be the proper way (which presumably they have) then the boost in spell slots that a single-classed partial caster receives at each new level will have been balanced against the other boosts that other classes get at that exact level in a broad general way, rather than against spell-slots specifically. So it may not be a good idea to tinker with single-classed spell progression. And as for tinkering with the multi-classed spell progression, I guess it would need a detailed analysis of different examples to be sure you weren't sabotaging careful balancing work done by WOTC.</p><p></p><p>But take this example for how it might be considered thematically off.</p><p></p><p>Arcane Trickster and Eldritch Knight have, I think I am right in (now booklessly) saying, the same spell progression.</p><p></p><p>Bill, Arcane Trickster 6, Eldritch Knight 6, has the same spell slots as Ben, Eldritch Knight 12.</p><p></p><p>But when Bill advances to Arcane Trickster 7, Eldritch Knight 7, and Ben advances to Eldritch Knight 14, Ben now has a full multiclassed spellcaster level's worth of extra spell-slots. (Ben is equivalent to a level 5 pure spellcaster; Bill is equivalent to level 4.)</p><p></p><p>Unless you are meant to add your AT and EK levels together before rounding down (wording seemed to suggest not, from what I recall of reading the book), this gets even worse when Bill reaches AT 8, EK 8, and Ben reaches EK 16:- Ben is now equivalent to a level 6 pure spellcaster, and Bill is still stuck at equivalence of level 4 pure spellcaster. (If however you add your AT and EK levels together before rounding down, then Bill would now be equivalent to a level 5 pure spellcaster.)</p><p></p><p>Yet when Bill reaches Arcane Trickster 9, Eldritch Knight 9, and Ben is Eldritch Knight 18, Bill miraculously catches up with Ben (both being equivalent to a level 6 pure spellcaster).</p><p></p><p>This seems thematically odd to me, especially if Bill makes a 2-level jump (my recollection of the wording of the rules supports that interpretation but it could be house-ruled the other way).</p><p></p><p>As I say, this may all fit in with careful balancing of other abilities gained by class and level, but I just don't like it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NerfedWizard, post: 6359615, member: 68865"] Well I have thought about it some more and I guess if WOTC have done their job in what I would consider to be the proper way (which presumably they have) then the boost in spell slots that a single-classed partial caster receives at each new level will have been balanced against the other boosts that other classes get at that exact level in a broad general way, rather than against spell-slots specifically. So it may not be a good idea to tinker with single-classed spell progression. And as for tinkering with the multi-classed spell progression, I guess it would need a detailed analysis of different examples to be sure you weren't sabotaging careful balancing work done by WOTC. But take this example for how it might be considered thematically off. Arcane Trickster and Eldritch Knight have, I think I am right in (now booklessly) saying, the same spell progression. Bill, Arcane Trickster 6, Eldritch Knight 6, has the same spell slots as Ben, Eldritch Knight 12. But when Bill advances to Arcane Trickster 7, Eldritch Knight 7, and Ben advances to Eldritch Knight 14, Ben now has a full multiclassed spellcaster level's worth of extra spell-slots. (Ben is equivalent to a level 5 pure spellcaster; Bill is equivalent to level 4.) Unless you are meant to add your AT and EK levels together before rounding down (wording seemed to suggest not, from what I recall of reading the book), this gets even worse when Bill reaches AT 8, EK 8, and Ben reaches EK 16:- Ben is now equivalent to a level 6 pure spellcaster, and Bill is still stuck at equivalence of level 4 pure spellcaster. (If however you add your AT and EK levels together before rounding down, then Bill would now be equivalent to a level 5 pure spellcaster.) Yet when Bill reaches Arcane Trickster 9, Eldritch Knight 9, and Ben is Eldritch Knight 18, Bill miraculously catches up with Ben (both being equivalent to a level 6 pure spellcaster). This seems thematically odd to me, especially if Bill makes a 2-level jump (my recollection of the wording of the rules supports that interpretation but it could be house-ruled the other way). As I say, this may all fit in with careful balancing of other abilities gained by class and level, but I just don't like it. [/QUOTE]
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