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<blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 7433060" data-attributes="member: 59057">Str is a great stat. People are underevaluating it. They miss:Str saving throws. Paladins are not proficient. So if you dump str you are falling on your face a lot.Carrying capacity and heavy armor. Str 8 paladins have problems wearing medium armor and a shield. So they will suffer from low armor for quite a few levels.Athletics is far superior to acrobatics since it can be used actively. Grabbed by an enemy? Just use the attack action and replace your first attack with a shove.Grab an enemy yourself so it won't get to your friends. Shove it to do the same.Athletics is used for swimming and climbing and jumping. One skill does everything you need.Longbows for a paladin??? That is quite wrong for most paladins. May be used to shoot fleeing enemies in the back...Initiative is overrated. Yes, going first is nice. As paladin you will be nearly equally happy just waiting for your wizard to open the combat with a nice fireball.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="UngeheuerLich, post: 7433060, member: 59057"] Str is a great stat. People are underevaluating it. They miss: Str saving throws. Paladins are not proficient. So if you dump str you are falling on your face a lot. Carrying capacity and heavy armor. Str 8 paladins have problems wearing medium armor and a shield. So they will suffer from low armor for quite a few levels. Athletics is far superior to acrobatics since it can be used actively. Grabbed by an enemy? Just use the attack action and replace your first attack with a shove. Grab an enemy yourself so it won't get to your friends. Shove it to do the same. Athletics is used for swimming and climbing and jumping. One skill does everything you need. Longbows for a paladin??? That is quite wrong for most paladins. May be used to shoot fleeing enemies in the back... Initiative is overrated. Yes, going first is nice. As paladin you will be nearly equally happy just waiting for your wizard to open the combat with a nice fireball. [/QUOTE]

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