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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8978377" data-attributes="member: 18">It really isn't. There's a profound difference between being an organisation dedicated to a philosophy, with an actual name, leadership, and so on, and just being a bunch of people with similar ideas.Human history is a flawless illustration of this. Particularly every union, formal religion or army in history.No. It's the equivalent of a formal religion or organisation like Catholicism becoming just a bunch of guys with similar beliefs. Again human history illustrates the difference extremely well.History does illustrate that groups that disband can and often do band back together, too, at least.Hmm. That's different to my reading of it. Either way, you're illustrating how Monte Cook selected the most interesting and philosophically strong Factions and intentionally destroyed them or watered them down, which is not good on any level, and very definitely doesn't make the setting "more dynamic" or the like. Indeed quite the contrary.Especially as he retained the conceptually weaker and less philosophically-oriented Factions like the Fated. Presumably he "got" those.This is a particularly good example - all of those are quite literally "dumbed down" versions. Yeah, they have some of the same concepts, but they're totally unnecessarily destroyed in favour of a much dimmer and less thoughtful/challenging take on the same sort of ideas.Further, by booting them all out of Sigil, and from the places of power they'd gained, he made Sigil itself vastly more boring and generic, leading directly to the 4E "Des Moines" version.</blockquote>

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